From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri May 18 08:29:18 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 18 May 2007 08:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hp4OK-0008Ky-1u for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 08:29:16 -0700 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.234]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hp4OG-0008Kn-EH for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 08:29:14 -0700 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so1673163wxd for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 08:29:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MlLwC0QqBLmQwaR4cAT0c1HgrRea45jb+AuI3mpMa6qlaOYE/uT+e4pMlrSNjIrXAWuUXFFxw1/q45OLOex9X1cT/Dozaj4jCoSiEVjZR3PJiUT1OV9SwDfnwbHST0mm1QEqAuErLoKaW5WOuEOuctHg5iEIpmd14CT36dF4CN4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=j7LHPM+Riu5JdxlChHC14tHE/3dnU/eR6vH5ruhcTcb/h57wDzAuokPMQR/UZ1zA2YZ7w0q6YCANtyEiXwwCT2duiUnAlwTD8eJ5c5InD5AbIMbJsr/OtSg+r9/pdQKY+Lz1pQr+rP1hZtIh+b4/DDHghr/NHROp0ufr8w+MEng= Received: by 10.70.117.3 with SMTP id p3mr2724251wxc.1179502149649; Fri, 18 May 2007 08:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.9.19 with HTTP; Fri, 18 May 2007 08:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2f91285f0705180829s62240dd7m44c4f4748de55024@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 16:29:09 +0100 From: "Vid Sintef" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: the ".i" after "lu" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_31082_10681090.1179502149580" References: <200705181505.08607.todurov@gmail.com> <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7D37@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> <2f91285f0705180657v62c66fe3q55e7b16540c5281a@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4510 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: picos.picos@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_31082_10681090.1179502149580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline What exactly is the role or logic of colon in Lojban? Is it a genuine and exclusive substitution for "cusku", or can it also behave like a sentence separator as does in English? On 5/18/07, Adam D. Lopresto wrote: > > On Fri, 18 May 2007, Vid Sintef wrote: > > > I understand Michael's point. > > However, some collections of text on www.lojban.org show sentences > without > > being separated by ".i". > > The following is from "terpa lo tirxu": > > > > A: doi patfu do terpa xu lo tirxu > > B: na go'i > > A: xu go'i lo cinfo > > B: si'a na go'i > > A: je'e .ija'o do terpa le mamta po'o > > > > Is this omission of ".i" a permissive, casual application for an > aesthetic > > reason? > > Or should it be avoided as is the case in Elmo's example? > > That text is *not* lojban. Think of it more as a script. The text after > the > colons is lojban, but the framing structure (with the colons, newlines, > and > such) isn't. > -- > Adam Lopresto > http://cec.wustl.edu/~adam/ > > Kids! Bringing about Armageddon can be dangerous. Do not attempt it in > your > home. > -- (Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens) > > > > ------=_Part_31082_10681090.1179502149580 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline What exactly is the role or logic of colon in Lojban? Is it a genuine and exclusive substitution for "cusku", or can it also behave like a sentence separator as does in English?


On 5/18/07, Adam D. Lopresto <adam@pubcrawler.org> wrote:
On Fri, 18 May 2007, Vid Sintef wrote:

> I understand Michael's point.
> However, some collections of text on www.lojban.org show sentences without
> being separated by ".i".
> The following is from "terpa lo tirxu":
>
> A: doi patfu do terpa xu lo tirxu
> B: na go'i
> A: xu go'i lo cinfo
> B: si'a na go'i
> A: je'e .ija'o do terpa le mamta po'o
>
> Is this omission of ".i" a permissive, casual application for an aesthetic
> reason?
> Or should it be avoided as is the case in Elmo's example?

That text is *not* lojban.  Think of it more as a script.  The text after the
colons is lojban, but the framing structure (with the colons, newlines, and
such) isn't.
--
Adam Lopresto
http://cec.wustl.edu/~adam/

Kids! Bringing about Armageddon can be dangerous. Do not attempt it in your
home.
         -- (Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens)




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