From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed May 23 14:13:48 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 23 May 2007 14:13:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hqy9T-0007A5-7J for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 23 May 2007 14:13:47 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.169]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hqy9P-00079v-RZ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 23 May 2007 14:13:46 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 78so282402ugn for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 14:13:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=FjEP5GSfUycNkGcEHXJptidjmh2YY7mo6J8dT6hTd6xJKytjpm7IGtdmfs9OXMMtoGzYHK1IZIHSBimC/go5JmZ3QC29VSk26Uo6ZyxYBCYmWD4zQh/6TWc4HEwShEY4apHQwpgm4K90836XLq5V1szSdBNGar3nlophJqIa5N4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=K7t9EFjbsaZOEmuq47iT5jdGb/rmfnI45ybLFWK1rSJ7OHCqQebgt3MJ5FmXFdluk2ir8DeEoatyDEVS8DXqOzDf4auTUA14zjHa8rYWFP7pVR2c1KGiofFQhE4rE/cVKTrzZz7tRyUGIFkn3DVJ8mjX73878ZHIUCvgbej/nuA= Received: by 10.66.218.15 with SMTP id q15mr1631147ugg.1179954821735; Wed, 23 May 2007 14:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hithaiglin.local ( [81.70.14.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 50sm3794932ugb.2007.05.23.14.13.39; Wed, 23 May 2007 14:13:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Dominic van Berkel Organization: Nazgjunk.nl To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: dicussions about basic vocabulary Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 23:13:24 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <1179942426.46547e1a60fa0@ssl0.ovh.net> <465496B1.2090807@spamcop.net> In-Reply-To: <465496B1.2090807@spamcop.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705232313.25876.nazgjunk@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4630 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: nazgjunk@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Wednesday 23 May 2007 21:32:01 Charles Duffy wrote: > I'm just a beginner here myself -- but Lojban word formation is pretty > flexible. {relxilma'e} is pretty well-established as meaning "bicycle" > -- I've seen it used in that context before -- but one of several other > possible words could be used, and your listener would still be able to > generally understand what you mean by breaking down the word. It's one of the oddities of Lojban - it's often presented as a logical, unambiguous language, yet in practice it's very context-dependant. Seemingly a paradox, but only seemingly. Dominic -- "Bi-la Kaifa" "Pure Vernunft darf niemals siegen" -- Tocotronic www.nazgjunk.nl - Poetry&Blog