From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri May 25 10:21:23 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 25 May 2007 10:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HrdTf-0004jJ-9J for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 25 May 2007 10:21:23 -0700 Received: from web88015.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.39.220]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HrdTc-0004jA-GE for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 25 May 2007 10:21:22 -0700 Received: (qmail 72430 invoked by uid 60001); 25 May 2007 17:21:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ozqyo2crJQXkuCy4pHmHOxw8ewYORIJKOwQVs19B3Sia/zAo+qkNtqtu4qkjMmnYQZdOCUhT1zjvX2xBmVATAHUWwZUfK7Bm8cNXppEWi/e1Va+B+qMnD1ENd67iQ2RQY7lSr0Npg4X4Vdv/Ld5klwVqYN6bPRP91i2cZ02+ttE=; X-YMail-OSG: 2FiTHygVM1mZiYbhsXCxEOuhM4VZ8YnYIaJcHHktw6dPrV.pwSyV2dMrS4J1W__LI_J29qQZctkEjKFqHMjQc3xQeD.fkbJa.11wHlha10Pg9ymnQQDy Received: from [74.123.21.51] by web88015.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 May 2007 10:21:14 PDT Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 10:21:13 -0700 (PDT) From: ANDREW PIEKARSKI Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: the first 117 words To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Message-ID: <134107.69107.qm@web88015.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.9 X-Spam-Score-Int: 19 X-Spam-Bar: + X-archive-position: 4670 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Wouldn't it be possible for some of our academic lojbanists to make contact with counterparts in Arab and Indian universities in order to introduce them to lojban? This is a wonderful product - why not promote it? The only way to ensure lojban is 'culturally neutral' is to get non-Europeans involved in it. mu'o mi'e .andrus. ----- Original Message ---- From: Jorge Llambías To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:25:03 PM Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: the first 117 words On 5/25/07, Vid Sintef wrote: > > I wonder: if there have been people who contributed to the multifaceted > etymology of Lojban (or Loglan), why couldn't they have supplied gimste of > Hindi, Russian, Arabic, and Chinese, in addition to that of English and > Spanish? The designers were all native English speakers, the words for the etymologies from other languages were all obtained from dictionaries, not from any actual knowledge of those languages. The Spanish translation of the gimste was done much later. The gismste has also been fully translated into Esperanto. I think there were people working on Russian, French and German translations, but I don't know how advanced those are (or whether any of them has been completed). mu'o mié xorxes