From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat May 26 08:42:45 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 26 May 2007 08:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HryPe-0004nt-1u for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 26 May 2007 08:42:40 -0700 Received: from smtp.mail.umich.edu ([141.211.93.161] helo=tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HryPK-0004nW-4k for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 26 May 2007 08:42:26 -0700 Received: FROM [192.168.123.137] (66-227-151-160.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com [66.227.151.160]) BY tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4658551A.E5704.30520 ; 26 May 2007 11:41:15 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <1180122807.46573eb7554e4@ssl0.ovh.net> References: <1180122807.46573eb7554e4@ssl0.ovh.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alex Martini Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: my first Lojban words 1.1 Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:41:08 -0400 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4695 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: alexjm@umich.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On May 25, 2007, at 3:53 PM, m.kornig@sondal.net wrote: > Hello everybody, > > Please have a look at the latest version of > my structured word list for beginners. > It's been improved thanks to Pierre's remarks. I've > added a proper document type declaration > (XHTML 1.0 Strict). ki'e (but I'm a self declared sucker for standards compliant documents...) > > And I've also prepared a column for Japanese. But I'm > still struggling with the Japanese characters... > > Vid, please have a look at this document. As you can > see, Japanese characters are possible within iso-8859-1. > You don't really need to go for a UTF-16 encoding. I would suggest that you ought to use Unicode (UTF8 or UTF16, not sure which would be better) for this. Latin-1 really doesn't include those Japanese characters you're using, so you're probably depending on the browser to fall back on another encoding. Which is probably either Shift JIS or some Unicode anyhow. The shortage of beginner's documents and vocabulary is always a complaint around here, so thanks for pulling this together. Do you think it would be appropriate to put it on the wiki soon? That way we can all work on it. If you're confused by the semi-weird way of making tables, I can help you out. I figured most of it out when I was putting the script for Elephants Dream up in translation. mu'o mi'e .aleks.