From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jun 04 07:38:17 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 04 Jun 2007 07:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HvDhF-0004Sw-EK for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 07:38:15 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.243]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HvDh8-0004QX-Ba for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 07:38:12 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b21so354082ana for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 07:38:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=k+kYyhc29hYiTongCSPOzoDlklYaXyMlkH52rnNKhaErcseiG61AluvX7MdGDa+UVsGah6xvS7lhhOB0H9y6Bofbb4F/+/YhjV/wek+WF895dVrzF6LS+nHvhKWQQKNRVMHqxiJr/dM3ia39Fl2fCQum48yI+5Y4/vxscCXLcNk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EcQBl9VfwSGmLQW5LxeBYXBjl519KJL8sn2Py55wVuX59tCRvCblsGsA/eQqAUymZfZMUXxID8RflCudI43KEQ6YOiZNQ4Nfp1bbuD4fQZ3SYDjwArrPFywuUUNZEXhMGstpukpJWSax3vzxu7Cya6axulU77zNKvZDTcdV1PcE= Received: by 10.100.190.8 with SMTP id n8mr2605329anf.1180967884518; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 07:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.42.12 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 07:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560706040738u2cbb3291n4cd17fb3cb4a64e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 11:38:04 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: la melpelkre .e le ci cribe In-Reply-To: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7D72@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <925d17560706011206s4d0b455an632bf70a55e3376c@mail.gmail.com> <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7D72@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4856 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 6/4/07, Turniansky, Michael [UNK] wrote: > > I hope I've made my > understanding clear, even though I must of course state that I'm not (as > you know) of any official standing in the lojban community. Well, I've discussed {diklo} with different people before, and your understanding is the one that makes the most sense to me so far. Adding "confined" to the definition and as a keyword would be very helpful, if your understanding is correct. > Although I would add here that sedi'o is less clunky to > use than the fi'o se zvati ;-) But {bu'u} = {fi'o se zvati}. {bu'u} is the ordinary spatial equivalent of {ca}. {se di'o} has a more specialized meaning. (As do {tu'i} and {ne'i}.) mu'o mi'e xorxes