From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jun 05 06:38:49 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 05 Jun 2007 06:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HvZFJ-00074R-0T for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 06:38:49 -0700 Received: from mclmx2.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.32] ident=[U2FsdGVkX18Q/j/zPT6hCTZqc//An1QUANNdvk28es8=]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HvZFB-0006x4-Nm for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 06:38:48 -0700 Received: from 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx2.mail.saic.com id BT-MMP-1839537 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 09:38:29 -0400 Received: from 0015-ITS-EXBH01.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.18]) by 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007060509382820759 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:38:29 -0400 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-ITS-EXBH01.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 5 Jun 2007 09:38:29 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7A776.CCE86715" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: {sei} Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 09:38:28 -0400 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7D7A@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0706050540o659c363frbb7f4cdc8a251ce5@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] {sei} Thread-Index: AcencunjPT/MoaRaQXWv+STQ0kSplwAApsHQ From: "Turniansky, Michael [UNK]" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2007 13:38:29.0220 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD178A40:01C7A776] X-Spam-Score: 1.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 11 X-Spam-Bar: + X-archive-position: 4886 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7A776.CCE86715 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---------- The Book chapter9 12.9: {lu mi klama seisa'a la djan cusku le zarci} (I suppose {.} and {li'u} are missed in the original?) Are these also valid: {lu mi klama seicu'u la djan. le zarci li'u}=20 and, in an even more relaxed style, {lu mi klama sei la djan. le zarci li'u} ------------- =20 When you say "li'u [is] missed" are you suggesting it's not there in error? Remember that li'u is elidble. It's never necessary at the end of a bridi. "sei" takes out of the underlying bridi for the space of one single bridi (which must not have any sumtis after the brivla). "cu'u la djan le zarci" is not a bridi, not is "la djan le zarci". The original setnence reads like lthis "I am going {John says <-- this is a note to the reader, a second bridi embedded in the original)} to the store". =20 --gejyspa =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7A776.CCE86715 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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The Book chapter9 12.9:
{lu mi klama seisa'a la djan cusku le zarci}

(I suppose {.} and {li'u} are missed in the original?)
Are these also valid:
{lu mi klama seicu'u la djan. le zarci li'u}
and, in an even more relaxed style,
{lu mi klama sei la djan. le zarci li'u}
-------------=

When you say "li'u = [is] missed" are you suggesting it's not there in error? Remember = that li'u is elidble. It's never necessary at the end of a = bridi.

"sei" takes out of the underlying bridi for the space of one single bridi (which must not have = any sumtis after the brivla). "cu'u la djan le zarci" is not a = bridi, not is "la djan le zarci".

The original setnence reads like = lthis "I am going {John says ß this is a note to the reader, a second bridi embedded in = the original)} to the store".

= --gejyspa

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