From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jun 05 09:37:52 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hvc2Y-0000xg-Mc for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:37:51 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.242]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hvc2U-0000xR-Na for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:37:50 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b21so454516ana for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:37:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dKmpfUd2RntfJPSbidWzn17U+gPc7ocUC4ujRX/V6TqBm2uPPgrqod7I9/EJVDKtQJSay13Im5Mervt4Y+kTNxWhBUdnlHt5EnRe2DdO1k8j2+nGcIdWO+aVLd/LpY0L2nMMad/Ss8jY2j8E9/2TUxvgwgssHxvh1mQsyqEI9jY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=o4sauilRCRhdA8Usu6btkEuH87o9pwsLOgbnf08oqhHuL9/+yh4V0/OnOnmkM0Yj8ikXLYJfnwSKw3vcMY08axN//s8OM3WqGYr6VOY/ZdEykSmoVZ2XWBDr8RkPjCuKS+iIcmyI8PnV8pA/65L/PIVe3yETi5REZ0ZItfX8H3Y= Received: by 10.100.215.11 with SMTP id n11mr3377154ang.1181061453539; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.42.12 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 09:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560706050937h4014ab7dje90ec6324c727466@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 13:37:33 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: {sei} In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0706050900j19d21465g869a7fe9f3c1890f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0706050540o659c363frbb7f4cdc8a251ce5@mail.gmail.com> <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7D7A@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> <2f91285f0706050900j19d21465g869a7fe9f3c1890f@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4890 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 6/5/07, Vid Sintef wrote: > > (The Book seems to say that the inserted bridi can have sumtis after the > brivla if they are glued with "be" and "bei". Hence the example 12.5: "la > frank. prami sei gleki be fa la suzn. la djein.") > > So, mine would be parsed like "lu mi klama sei () cu'u la djan le zarci" > without a proper brivla in "sei ..."? Therefore I need to stick to "cusku" > as a brivla instead of the cmavo "cu'u"? The SEI-construct has the following grammar: SEI (terms CU?)? selbri SEhU? The question marks indicate optional elements. The terminator SEhU can normally be elided. The leading terms are optional. The selbri is not optional. (Terms linked with BE and BEI are internal parts of a selbri.) mu'o mi'e xorxes