From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jun 05 10:29:56 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hvcqx-0002MW-PY for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:29:56 -0700 Received: from mclmx.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.10]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hvcqt-0002MN-QQ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:29:55 -0700 Received: from 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx.mail.saic.com id BT-MMP-1751646 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 13:29:29 -0400 Received: from 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.22]) by 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007060513292824482 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:29:28 -0400 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 5 Jun 2007 13:29:28 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: {sei} Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 13:29:28 -0400 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7D7E@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <23dc8c770706051024l4623a867m55d8379bd7f9b164@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: {sei} Thread-Index: AcenltyoT+y+ArjnRP6pRh0rd3SWJwAAA4Zg From: "Turniansky, Michael [UNK]" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2007 17:29:28.0692 (UTC) FILETIME=[11FB2340:01C7A797] X-Spam-Score: 1.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 11 X-Spam-Bar: + X-archive-position: 4893 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Yes, you are of course right, I misspoke. In Vid's case it was the end of the text of the example. Where is my head? -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Karl Naylor Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:25 PM To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: {sei} On 05/06/07, Turniansky, Michael [UNK] wrote: > error? Remember that li'u is elidble. It's never necessary at the end of a > bridi. What about: la .djan. cusku lu mi viska lo mlatu .i .ai mi tavla ri I would read {.i .ai mi tavla ri} as part of the quoted text expressed by John, not as the quoter's own remark, in which case {li'u} is not elidable except at the end of text. Chapter 19 Section 9.1 states that {li'u} is almost never elidable except at the end of text, supporting this interpretation.