From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jun 11 16:43:17 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HxtXX-0000cs-VP for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:43:16 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.250]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HxtXU-0000cS-9x for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:43:15 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b21so431834ana for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:43:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UE5KllgwZv1EdObTuoArEGWN2CST47LUfuQCQ8bLR+WzMsZpclF8c/Qol7aII9+JFi1/d8Do6mL+A8mVmsER9o1zh6XeDwn8TkumiJdC0bqcjSsfH/7JOyF84fGtmsa3muFWdYQ99Hn81aJQsEqxTCHpoZRjD8XUSEdYdYCm4L8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TIPViDAySjpDqIRBQoEyDaaa6SJqnibTi+vdAAVuO8a/ILwhvxCQXvT+3rdyDMaGZ/SrJ5Tl0cb5AQ+QCSgAHkI3Z26kAi5nrOSSuL/sT4jLX0JNVMCoyP9NsMwHFd4c/RlKllbNyN6iqGZxJco5562gYATdpQUypHhGat+4JM0= Received: by 10.101.68.18 with SMTP id v18mr3643463ank.1181605390646; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.42.17 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560706111643q2d69572bucdddb56f9e00f62b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:43:10 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: se gugde? In-Reply-To: <70575.9119.qm@web88007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <70575.9119.qm@web88007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4939 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 6/11/07, ANDREW PIEKARSKI wrote: > > So to avoid confusion, wouldn't your other suggestion be better - > {flalu xabju}? Only, this for me would still mean 'legal resident' > (as opposed to, for example, an illegal immigrant). I didn't propose "flalu xabju" for "citizen". Only for "resident". I proposed "(flalu) se gugde" for citizen. > A citizen has more privileges than a legal resident. In particular, he > has the right to own a passport. And besides, a citizen need not reside in the country of which they are a citizen. mu'o mi'e xorxes