From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jun 15 10:01:49 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HzFB3-0005W9-OS for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:01:47 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.244]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HzFAv-0005W1-Oh for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:01:35 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b21so253151ana for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:01:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=q3B7TAqi8fwG6S8r0d8zx3bPbF2ufBx9QxxW0tCKZfIeAOJA1hDaKYJROogq/StSYTAz/qV2gPCVWbVBkN6BSDaguw7034/FAjiBAuj07sGg2K8uRWGksOxdN/n/Om8dJt/na0+CPRoqh3rCUALRl1oF6Ax/uFKCMSsiEPcaB4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=D0yDOcsdIA5GxZYGKoYJ3DbwL4SgyJP3ENJqzk9q4aKtSQgL5HRMTbHfvuyiBXmYAF0VWLdKzvUK0dyOc4OM74Al9gavEN4OKm/Yp9HVcRfU/O4Q0CeoAJcJIi9aBty1HLWv2i4KqXzUB5ua3hHMU54zvooQ6hSmythsjMzMLDw= Received: by 10.100.14.19 with SMTP id 19mr1957645ann.1181926886804; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.122.14 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <23dc8c770706151001o30b61e51u22024d1b34c62096@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:01:26 +0000 From: "Karl Naylor" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: nice to meet you In-Reply-To: <1181925981.4672c25d55fb3@ssl0.ovh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1181846668.46718c8cd54da@ssl0.ovh.net> <12d58c160706141203u6082ccadgb07580efbc8892c8@mail.gmail.com> <1181880906.4672124ad3e2b@ssl0.ovh.net> <06F3B71D-34DC-45E5-9124-EF5C7B36DE19@umich.edu> <1181925981.4672c25d55fb3@ssl0.ovh.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4965 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: karl.org@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 15/06/07, m.kornig@sondal.net wrote: > > I think it's worth pointing out that {.oinai ro'a} and {.oi nai > > ro'a}, and even {.oinairo'a} are exactly the same. Since they're > What about the stress rule "For words consisting of two or > more syllables: stress the last but one syllable." Doesn't > it apply here as anywhere else? 1) the stress rule only applies to brivla as far as I know. However I *think* it's forbidden to stress a syllable immediately preceding a mandatorily-stressed syllable, eg. you may say {so'u GERku} or {SO'u GERku}, but not {so'U GERku}. If it's not forbidden, it's at least bad practice. Can anyone clarify? 2) dropping the spaces between cmavo does not turn two (or more) words into one. {.oinairo'a} is three words; you can tell because there are no consonant pairs.