From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jun 15 13:37:12 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HzIXf-0004Jx-4X for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:37:11 -0700 Received: from 25.mail-out.ovh.net ([213.186.37.103]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HzIXb-0004Ji-1z for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:37:10 -0700 Received: (qmail 27308 invoked by uid 503); 15 Jun 2007 20:37:24 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 15 Jun 2007 20:37:24 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail80.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 25.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2007 20:37:24 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 15 Jun 2007 20:37:03 -0000 Received: from 222.9-225-89.dsl.completel.net (222.9-225-89.dsl.completel.net [89.225.9.222]) by ssl0.ovh.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:37:03 +0200 Message-ID: <1181939823.4672f86fe812b@ssl0.ovh.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:37:03 +0200 From: m.kornig@sondal.net To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: nice to meet you References: <1181846668.46718c8cd54da@ssl0.ovh.net> <12d58c160706141203u6082ccadgb07580efbc8892c8@mail.gmail.com> <1181880906.4672124ad3e2b@ssl0.ovh.net> <06F3B71D-34DC-45E5-9124-EF5C7B36DE19@umich.edu> <1181925981.4672c25d55fb3@ssl0.ovh.net> <23dc8c770706151001o30b61e51u22024d1b34c62096@mail.gmail.com> <1181933212.4672de9ccc88e@ssl0.ovh.net> <925d17560706151247t7a1769aauf85e98e44e4e9c41@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560706151247t7a1769aauf85e98e44e4e9c41@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 89.225.9.222 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: 6 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4973 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: m.kornig@sondal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Selon Jorge Llambías : > On 6/15/07, m.kornig@sondal.net wrote: > > > > What is the meaning of spaces then. I thought space are used to > > seperate words??? > > Spaces CAN be used to separate words, but they are not required. > The only spaces that are obligatory are right after a brivla, because > they indicate (indirectly) where to put the stress. If brivla stress is > indicated by other means, the space is not obligatory. > > > There is an exception with names, though. Because > > there, seperation is achieved by points rather than by spaces. > > Example: {bil.geits.} > > The dots indicate obligatory pauses. Pauses are always allowed > between words and never allowed in the middle of a word. In general, > pauses are not necessary between words, that's why when they > are obligatory they are marked with a dot. > > > My understanding is: syllables can have a fairly large number of cosonants. > > Yes, they can. (The exact details have not been fully defined yet.) > But what Karl pointed out is correct: if there is no consonant cluster, > and the string ends in a vowel, you know that it consists only of cmavo. > A brivla must always have at least one consonant cluster (for this > purpose "y" does not count as breaking a cluster.). Thanks Jorge. That clarifies a few things for me. Martin