From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jun 17 08:23:28 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hzwb9-00046Y-LO for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:23:28 -0700 Received: from 25.mail-out.ovh.net ([213.186.37.103]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hzwb4-00046O-08 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:23:27 -0700 Received: (qmail 6493 invoked by uid 503); 17 Jun 2007 15:23:39 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 17 Jun 2007 15:23:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail83.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.59) by 25.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2007 15:23:39 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2007 15:23:14 -0000 Received: from 82.29-225-89.dsl.completel.net (82.29-225-89.dsl.completel.net [89.225.29.82]) by ssl0.ovh.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:23:14 +0200 Message-ID: <1182093794.467551e2be0f3@ssl0.ovh.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:23:14 +0200 From: m.kornig@sondal.net To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Dots and spaces (was: Logical connectives) References: <23dc8c770706170259j5884f3a3s7f44a20ca44a10db@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <23dc8c770706170259j5884f3a3s7f44a20ca44a10db@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 89.225.29.82 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: 6 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4995 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: m.kornig@sondal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Selon Karl Naylor : > This raises a point I've been interested by for a while, though: I've > don't remember seeing any discussion at all in the RG or LFB of > spaces. As I recall it's just assumed that spaces go between words in > written Lojban, except where you don't need them. It seems to me > there's room for a more thorough treatment. After all, Lojban has at > least three mechanisms for signalling to the reader/listener where > word boundaries lie: stress rules, spacing and dots. Stress in spoken > Lojban I believe is fully explained, but its written equivalent is > left for the Lojbanist to figure out. This leads to some puzzlement > on the beginners' list as new Lojbanists begin interacting with the > more experienced and wonder why some people drop spaces, some drop > dots, some use explicit stress (via capitalisation) for all words, > etc. > > Has this issue been discussed before my time, I wonder? Is there any > motion to insert discussion of spacing into the RG, or has it been > determined that this is unnecessary? My personal opinion is that texts are easier to read if words are relatively short. Having a few additional spaces doesn't hinder quick reading, I think. So my personal advice would be: as many word separation as possible! Martin