From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jun 17 13:26:52 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I01Km-00020O-5C for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:26:52 -0700 Received: from 25.mail-out.ovh.net ([213.186.37.103]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I01Kg-00020H-UK for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:26:51 -0700 Received: (qmail 30945 invoked by uid 503); 17 Jun 2007 20:27:05 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 17 Jun 2007 20:27:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail75.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.59) by 25.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2007 20:27:05 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2007 20:26:40 -0000 Received: from 82.29-225-89.dsl.completel.net (82.29-225-89.dsl.completel.net [89.225.29.82]) by ssl0.ovh.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:26:40 +0200 Message-ID: <1182112000.4675990068e55@ssl0.ovh.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:26:40 +0200 From: m.kornig@sondal.net To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Dots and spaces (was: Logical connectives) References: <23dc8c770706170259j5884f3a3s7f44a20ca44a10db@mail.gmail.com> <1182093794.467551e2be0f3@ssl0.ovh.net> <2f91285f0706171228n2058d9a3k393cbef9f3c2bae6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0706171228n2058d9a3k393cbef9f3c2bae6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 89.225.29.82 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: 6 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4998 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: m.kornig@sondal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Selon Vid Sintef : > On 6/17/07, m.kornig@sondal.net wrote: > > > > My personal opinion is that texts are easier to > > read if words are relatively short. Having a few > > additional spaces doesn't hinder quick reading, > > I think. > > > > So my personal advice would be: as many word separation > > as possible! > > > Actually, an easy/quick reading does not necessarily result from simple > separation of words, but rather from tactic separation of > grammatical/semantical > blocks of which the text is made up. Indeed, there are languages where > spaces are not as conventional as in the European languages and yet the > speakers are capable of quick reading. Chinese speakers, for example, can > generally perform skimming & scanning techniques better than English > speakers, while there's hardly a space in the Chinese text. > > There seem to be more people who do not put a space between {le} and {nu} > than those who do. Probably because that's easier to read and grasp. > Separation of words does not necessarily guarantee easiness in reading. Too > many spaces between words in Lojban sometimes make the text inconveniently > fragmented. The more I study Lojban, the more I find {.iseri'abo} facile and > {.i se ri'a bo} disconcerting. Interesting. This is probably convient for an experienced reader/speaker, in particular for a group of smaller words that often apear together. Martin