From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jun 18 05:41:34 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I0GXz-0005Si-CZ for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:41:33 -0700 Received: from mclmx.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.10]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I0GXw-0005SO-Jj for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:41:31 -0700 Received: from 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx.mail.saic.com id BT-MMP-133991 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:41:14 -0400 Received: from 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.22]) by 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007061808411403252 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:41:14 -0400 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:41:14 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7B1A5.F519A691" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: her whom I would be seeing Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:41:14 -0400 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7DC8@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <006001c7b044$69a6c3f0$0300a8c0@Starlight> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: her whom I would be seeing Thread-Index: AcewQIPc7LO6HBqdTi+grQUCyQU79QAABLLwAFj8eEA= From: "Turniansky, Michael [UNK]" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2007 12:41:14.0255 (UTC) FILETIME=[F51039F0:01C7B1A5] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5005 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7B1A5.F519A691 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marjorie: =20 When using {goi} it makes no difference whether the {ko'a} is the one that comes first or second, as long as the terminators of the other things are in the right place. For example, if I wanted to say some things about my friend, more specifically the one that plays reed instruments, the first time I referred to this person I might say le mi pendo poi pilno fi lonu zgike fe lo xagri ku'o ku goi ko'a First, let me say that skaryzgik is an interesting and pretty choice for a lojbanic handle. Second, that utterance may not mean exactly what you intended, as the "fe lo xagri" is the x2 place of the "zgike", which is supposed to be an event. If you meant it there, then you would probably want "tu'a" before "lo" Perhaps you meant it to be the X2 place of pilno, in which case you would to close of the nu clause with a kei or ku after zgike. --gejsypa =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7B1A5.F519A691 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Marjorie:

When using {goi} it makes no difference whether the {ko’a} is the one = that comes first or second, as long as the terminators of the other things = are in the right place.

For example, if I wanted to say some things about my friend, more = specifically the one that plays reed instruments, the first time I referred to this = person I might say

le mi pendo poi pilno fi lonu zgike fe lo xagri ku’o = ku goi ko’a

= First, let me say that skaryzgik is an interesting and pretty choice for = a lojbanic handle. Second, that utterance may not mean exactly what = you intended, as the "fe lo xagri" is the x2 place of the "zgike", which is supposed to be an event. If you meant = it there, then you would probably want "tu'a" before = "lo" Perhaps you meant it to be the X2 place of pilno, in which case you = would to close of the nu clause with a kei or ku after = zgike.

= ; = --gejsypa

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