From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jun 18 15:13:28 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I0PTT-0007Lf-Ba for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:13:27 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.245]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I0PTQ-0007LY-R9 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:13:27 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b21so435003ana for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:13:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XQaKT03l1QY6PpowDt1XLdIZm+HReYvQy7gNMDr2BIIxmngIBpffK3f0C2Uf8A3Va2/efE0F9UwUrY//IUjy8RCbk9+pC/tNmhkIDGd/HojEpG1TZ0WRFS4CDBtyRW5PD1a7SIahdPOxA3ei/OR+eoYwwk+IEUHm0UvbuEXxHQc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=n2QMjL5BKQRsXLQW06K1EeNBZlsmz7p7b19HrCtyAnhiVpqZNpoEdY/oqJUAUkTkxfiEzSKXFNhoD8pZ4J723F/Zd4HccG3dUvPpNqU1XFaQTBOI3aea7FZvSqx0TkwyTWjgx7iannuT9S83r+RgYVUON77INim81q7rSZmSB18= Received: by 10.100.108.11 with SMTP id g11mr3029312anc.1182204803411; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.42.17 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560706181513g225c7dccqd1b036e4afa2c18f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:13:23 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: la In-Reply-To: <12d58c160706181454l19590484if01b7e663b0515d0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1182197650.4676e792850d9@ssl0.ovh.net> <4676F9E8.5090404@online.de> <12d58c160706181454l19590484if01b7e663b0515d0@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5039 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 6/18/07, komfo,amonan wrote: > > I'm pretty sure that without the gadri {la} the language breaks. E.g. > { * .i klaus. pat. prami }. > We wouldn't know whether { * klaus. pat. } was one name or two; in other > words, this could be interpreted as (in proper Lojban) > { .i la klaus. la pat. prami } (Klaus loves Pat) or > { .i la klaus. pat. prami } (Klaus Pat loves [someone]) That could be solved if cmevla had the grammar of selma'o BY: {.klaus.pat.[boi] prami} vs. {.klaus. boi .pat. [boi] prami}. But I find a greater affinity of cmevla with BRIVLA, the two open word classes in Lojban. mu'o mi'e xorxes