From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jun 19 11:40:34 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:40:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I0icz-0000fH-If for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:40:34 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.244]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I0ict-0000f5-Ph for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:40:32 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b21so511764ana for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:40:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YYqgKKcTehmgW3OQRQo9eG0sQPTBcEbEZjYxlmkRpo6WoGKMLc6hNs/mesea/kFhAW1LgO10Vhsh/lcdDp8ik4sNTMozZGUUGKqi3BZIo9gVV6PAr4C9qW+ijEPPggNpLltOhHBDDslSXXF+50Nk5ADuSNc0aol5+8bjUVJN9Gs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=a3VH8yXGx40gAHWpq8skUMstCAnRhzhVuAT3TrUvX5Fj3tk3qnfRQJVKz52v44IHBZLglwG4YKedrK9PLLHih5mLhuXTMWsN6yGsO8JDKeFaWIgz/9LT8LU4kI0oHTReK/QQcDhfB4z+j+qNhTstxJgFr0oJNkNJwh7BfRnaLac= Received: by 10.100.41.8 with SMTP id o8mr736552ano.1182278426221; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.9.14 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2f91285f0706191140l55b6f1e0t29dddb36bdada2a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:40:26 +0100 From: "Vid Sintef" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: la In-Reply-To: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7DD5@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_32707_31546142.1182278426012" References: <2f91285f0706181826s38e20a90v1ff3076502fa695@mail.gmail.com> <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7DD5@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 2 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5063 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: picos.picos@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_32707_31546142.1182278426012 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/19/07, Turniansky, Michael [UNK] wrote: > > A "hyphen" in lojban has a very specific meaning. It's a leter that > glues two things together into one single word, such as "y" between > disallowed consonant pairs, or "r" joining two CVV rafsi, or "r","n" or "l" > gluing the front part of a fui'vla to the back part. A period is nothing > more or less than a required pause in speaking. la.djak.kenedis is > exactly the same as la djak. kenedis. (or, in simplified writing, "la djak > kenedis") A "la" can be followed by any number of cmevla, turning them all > into a single name That's why la ja.jak.rusol is not allowed, because > "ja" isn't a cmevla > Ok, I'll keep that in mind. By the way, is it bad if I do something like "mi pu ... bajra", with the periods indicating a "series" of (therefore long) pause in speaking? If so, what is the solution for such an expression (a long pause) other than the ".y"? --Vid ------=_Part_32707_31546142.1182278426012 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/19/07, Turniansky, Michael [UNK] <MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com> wrote:

A "hyphen" in lojban has a very specific meaning.  It's a leter that glues two things together into one single word, such as "y" between disallowed consonant pairs, or "r" joining two CVV rafsi, or "r","n" or "l" gluing the front part of a fui'vla to the back part.  A period is nothing more or less than a required pause in speaking.  la.djak.kenedis is exactly the same as la djak. kenedis.   (or, in simplified writing, "la djak kenedis") A "la" can be followed by any number of cmevla, turning them all into a single name  That's why la ja.jak.rusol is not allowed, because "ja" isn't a cmevla


Ok, I'll keep that in mind.

By the way, is it bad if I do something like "mi pu ... bajra", with the periods indicating a "series" of (therefore long) pause in speaking? If so, what is the solution for such an expression (a long pause) other than the ".y"?

   --Vid
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