From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jun 20 13:54:16 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I17Bv-0007HG-UL for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:54:16 -0700 Received: from anno.name ([81.169.186.62] helo=mail.anno.name) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I17Bs-0007H3-CH for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:54:15 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.146] (p5085C402.dip.t-dialin.net [80.133.196.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.anno.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5929868AC9 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:54:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4679938D.30302@perpetuum-immobile.de> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:52:29 +0200 From: Timo Paulssen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: non-bridi grammar? References: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7DE5@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> <1182368495.467982efaf472@ssl0.ovh.net> In-Reply-To: <1182368495.467982efaf472@ssl0.ovh.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: id=21E90840 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig53248B4FC6126E3F7BF2D65D" X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5074 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig53248B4FC6126E3F7BF2D65D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable m.kornig@sondal.net schrieb: > Selon "Turniansky, Michael \\[UNK\\]" : >=20 >> cmavo of type COI >=20 > Which type? How can I recognize cmavo of this type? it's called selma'o, it's a "group", sort of. coi is of COI, pa, re, ci, =2E.. are of PA and so on >> take a following sumti and the combined phrase >> functions grammtically like discursives grammtically like a UI, that i= s >> to say, it can appear basically anywhere in a sentece. For example, t= he >> following is perfectly grammatical: >> >> le mi gerku coi pat cu blabi =3D> my dog (Hi, Pat!) is white. >=20 > And how would you know that {pat.} belongs to {coi} and not > to {blabi}? because cmavo of selma'o COI "eat" a sumti or cmene >> An utterance doesn't have to be a sentence/brivla. For example, if >> someone asks: >> >> ma pa citka ta ("Who ate that?") >=20 > {pa} is a number meaning "one", isn't it? i think it's a typo and he wanted to say pu >> A perfectly valid response is "oi sai ro'e le blabi gerku po'e mi" >> (grrr... the white dog, which belongs to me), which isn't a brivla, >> either, but is an multi-word utterance. >=20 > Where could I find more about such discursives? oi sai ro'e are all related to UI - attitudinals. > Martin - Timo --------------enig53248B4FC6126E3F7BF2D65D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGeZOQus6NTCHpCEARAkpGAJ0Ud9cx63+2VD2z0eECEY3+YtTXugCeLZWZ J832fAmH90EOBcbessloDto= =xFXA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig53248B4FC6126E3F7BF2D65D--