From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jun 20 21:14:39 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I1E46-00076d-CU for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:14:39 -0700 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.181]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I1E43-00076V-Hh for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:14:37 -0700 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so859933pyb for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:14:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tCHANXSIyEx7Gha9vu8wxfgCY3qLJggLHb9H2FC9uA4mgdrYbqvq9TO8Ec9Q/8qxXJypLJXMJPdBmh98jEm5rqA07zBTum6SZ1KTgUXGRrNnURvxTlLOC0MqP/MHSSutGu/Fro+1E+hvweEH0+vh23+WFiyDq7evMV/PauYh+wk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hra6oDovfS9doYsQozqRvhpUObBniPUc+YTNpOvoifNPu8zRiNnKIh5sC7+Z4qI/xv/uKdhNApbKjk2g11p+OufLmw0VMSi+Lf7eEIRz1Oyk8xjqqopHwE/S/1rwab8g5teT1RjRWHhdD0704pydkmNXnnNjeZYzptfE/WZLRHw= Received: by 10.65.254.5 with SMTP id g5mr2807939qbs.1182399267092; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.191.16 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <702226df0706202114n75d27943r92d98046f53c4318@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:14:27 -0600 From: "Jon \"Top Hat\" Jones" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Not a Box (a lesson in lojban negation) In-Reply-To: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7D8F@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_90703_11007680.1182399267060" References: <466A0DA5@webmail.bcpl.net> <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7D8F@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5076 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: eyeonus@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_90703_11007680.1182399267060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/7/07, Turniansky, Michael [UNK] wrote: > > Okay, from what I took away from Jorge, and three typo corrections, > and a simplification of two of the pages, we now get: > > mu'i ma do zutse ne'i lo tanxe (bunny sitting in box) > na'i go'i .i ti na tanxe (bunny sitting in racing car) > tezu'e ma do cpana le va tanxe (bunny standing atop box) > na'i go'i .i ti ba'e na tanxe (bunny atop mountain) > mu'i ma do cecla renro lo djacu lo tanxe (bunny squirting box with hose) > na'i go'i .i mi pu ba'e cusku le sedu'u ti na tanxe (bunny as > firefighter) > xu caku do dasni lo tanxe (bunny wearing box) > na'i go'i .i ti na tanxe (bunny as robot) > xu do ca'o sanli ne'i leva tanxe (bunny standing in box) > na'i go'i .i ti ba'e ba'e ba'e ba'e na tanxe (bunny in crow's nest of > pirate > ship, basket of hot air balloon, howdah on elephant, and as tugboat > captain) > .o'o ri mo (bunny standing inside box with cut-out window) > --- (bunny sitting atop box, thinking hard) > ri me lemi ba'e na'e tanxe (bunny in rocket ship, blasting off) > > > --gy > > -----Original Message----- > From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org > [mailto: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of turnip > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 7:24 PM > To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org > Subject: [lojban-beginners] Not a Box (a lesson in lojban negation) > > The following is a translation of Anotinette Portis' "Not a Box" > (http://www.amazon.com/Not-Box-Antoinette-Portis/dp/0061123226/ref=pd_bb > s_sr_1 > /104-8101861-8524715?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1181085233&sr=8-1), which > demonstrates nicely different type of lojban negation. > > Since this cute children's book loses a lot without the illustrations, I > have > appended to each line a description of the drawing on that page. The > protagonist is a little child bunny. > > mu'i ma do ne'i zutse lo tanxe (bunny sitting in box) > na'i go'i .i ti na tanxe (bunny sitting in racing car) > do zukte le zu'o cpana le va tanxe ku ma (bunny standing atop box) > na'i go'i .i ti ba'e na tanxe (bunny atop mountain) > mu'i ma do cecla rento lo djacu lo tanxe (bunny squirting box with hose) > na'i go'i .i mi pu ba'e cusku le sedu'u ti na tanxe (bunny as > firefighter) > xu caku do dasni lo tanxe (bunny wearing box) > na'i go'i .i ti na tanxe (bunny as robot) > xu do ca'o ne'i sanli leva tanxe (bunny stading in box) > na'i go'i .i ti ba'e ba'e ba'e ba'e na tanxe (bunny in crow's nest of > pirate > ship, basket of hot air balloon, howdah on elephant, and as tugboat > captain) > .o'o ti mo (bunny standing inside box with cut-out window) > --- (bunny sitting atop box, thinking hard) > ti ponse be fa mi ba'e na'e tanxe (bunny in rocket ship, blasting off) > > > --gejyspa .i pe'i ko .ei punji le go'i zoi gy. http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Texts+In+Lojban&bl gy. I think you should put that on the "Texts in Lojban" page. (I'm sure that's a maglico use of {punji}, since my te punji isn't technically a surface....) -- mu'o mi'e .topy'at. .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu ------=_Part_90703_11007680.1182399267060 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/7/07, Turniansky, Michael [UNK] <MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com > wrote:
  Okay, from what I took away from Jorge, and three typo corrections,
and a simplification of two of the pages, we now get:

mu'i ma do zutse  ne'i lo tanxe (bunny sitting in box)
na'i go'i .i ti na tanxe (bunny sitting in racing car)
tezu'e ma do cpana le va tanxe  (bunny standing atop box)
na'i go'i .i ti ba'e na tanxe (bunny atop mountain)
mu'i ma do cecla renro lo djacu lo tanxe (bunny squirting box with hose)
na'i go'i .i mi pu ba'e cusku le sedu'u ti na tanxe (bunny as
firefighter)
xu caku do dasni lo tanxe (bunny wearing box)
na'i go'i .i ti na tanxe (bunny as robot)
xu do ca'o sanli ne'i leva tanxe (bunny standing in box)
na'i go'i .i ti ba'e ba'e ba'e ba'e na tanxe (bunny in crow's nest of
pirate
ship, basket of hot air balloon, howdah on elephant, and as tugboat
captain)
.o'o ri mo (bunny standing inside box with cut-out window)
--- (bunny sitting atop box, thinking hard)
ri me lemi ba'e na'e tanxe (bunny in rocket ship, blasting off)


               --gy

-----Original Message-----
From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org
[mailto: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of turnip
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 7:24 PM
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Not a Box (a lesson in lojban negation)

The following is a translation of Anotinette Portis' "Not a Box"
( http://www.amazon.com/Not-Box-Antoinette-Portis/dp/0061123226/ref=pd_bb
s_sr_1
/104-8101861-8524715?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1181085233&sr=8-1), which
demonstrates nicely different type of lojban negation.

Since this cute children's book loses a lot without the illustrations, I
have
appended to each line a description of the drawing on that page.  The
protagonist is a little child bunny.

mu'i ma do ne'i zutse lo tanxe (bunny sitting in box)
na'i go'i .i ti na tanxe (bunny sitting in racing car)
do zukte le zu'o cpana le va tanxe ku ma (bunny standing atop box)
na'i go'i .i ti ba'e na tanxe (bunny atop mountain)
mu'i ma do cecla rento lo djacu lo tanxe (bunny squirting box with hose)
na'i go'i .i mi  pu ba'e cusku le sedu'u ti na tanxe (bunny as
firefighter)
xu caku do dasni lo tanxe (bunny wearing box)
na'i go'i .i ti na tanxe (bunny as robot)
xu do ca'o ne'i sanli leva tanxe (bunny stading in box)
na'i go'i .i ti ba'e ba'e ba'e ba'e na tanxe (bunny in crow's nest of
pirate
ship, basket of hot air balloon, howdah on elephant, and as tugboat
captain)
.o'o ti mo (bunny standing inside box with cut-out window)
--- (bunny sitting atop box, thinking hard)
ti ponse be fa mi ba'e na'e tanxe (bunny in rocket ship, blasting off)


            --gejyspa

.i pe'i ko .ei punji le go'i zoi gy. http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Texts+In+Lojban&bl gy.
I think you should put that on the "Texts in Lojban" page.
(I'm sure that's a maglico use of {punji}, since my te punji isn't technically a surface....)
--
mu'o mi'e .topy'at.

.i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu ------=_Part_90703_11007680.1182399267060--