From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jun 20 22:40:32 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I1FPE-0008MJ-5R for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:40:32 -0700 Received: from netscaler1.rice.edu ([128.42.205.5] helo=mh3.mail.rice.edu) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I1FPB-0008MB-7x for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:40:31 -0700 Received: from mh3.mail.rice.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mh3.mail.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EC02880BD for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:40:22 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis-2.4.4 at mh3.mail.rice.edu Received: from mh3.mail.rice.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mh3.mail.rice.edu (mh3.mail.rice.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ahZVEi1bS6j9 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:40:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Starlight (c-24-18-203-65.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.18.203.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mh3.mail.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD95288090 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:40:21 -0500 (CDT) From: "Marjorie Scherf" To: References: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7DE5@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> <1182368495.467982efaf472@ssl0.ovh.net> <4679938D.30302@perpetuum-immobile.de> <1182399297.4679fb4187dc6@ssl0.ovh.net> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: non-bridi grammar? Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:38:50 -0700 Message-ID: <001901c7b3c6$74804b90$0300a8c0@Starlight> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <1182399297.4679fb4187dc6@ssl0.ovh.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcezuwW+bvlv469uTHmLg0cWzufCRgACjtfQ X-Spam-Score: 0.9 X-Spam-Score-Int: 9 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5078 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mls1@rice.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of m.kornig@sondal.net Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:15 PM To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: non-bridi grammar? Selon Timo Paulssen : > >> le mi gerku coi pat cu blabi => my dog (Hi, Pat!) is white. > > > > And how would you know that {pat.} belongs to {coi} and not > > to {blabi}? > > because cmavo of selma'o COI "eat" a sumti or cmene They are not always "hungry", are they? I mean {coi} could stay alone without a following sumti. My question remains: How would I know that {pat.} belongs to {coi} and not to {blabi}? There's a terminator {do'u} you can use to keep it from eating the next sumti. It's elidable if at the end of a sentence. Without the terminator, it eats the next word(s). If the next word is a cmevla, it takes all consecutive cmevla. If it's a brivla, they all get sucked in as a tanru if you don't have the terminator. mu'omi'e .skaryzgik.