From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jun 21 10:51:37 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I1QoW-0005DF-Ee for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:51:36 -0700 Received: from 25.mail-out.ovh.net ([213.186.37.103]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I1Qo8-0005Ch-Qu for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:51:15 -0700 Received: (qmail 14004 invoked by uid 503); 21 Jun 2007 17:51:14 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 21 Jun 2007 17:51:14 -0000 Received: from gw2.ovh.net (HELO mail14.ha.ovh.net) (213.251.189.202) by 25.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2007 17:51:14 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2007 17:50:50 -0000 Received: from 59.1-225-89.dsl.completel.net (59.1-225-89.dsl.completel.net [89.225.1.59]) by ssl0.ovh.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:50:50 +0200 Message-ID: <1182448250.467aba7ac6ddc@ssl0.ovh.net> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:50:50 +0200 From: m.kornig@sondal.net To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: online e-learning References: <1182038545.46747a1157281@ssl0.ovh.net> <411a52d90706170320s68eaaf6ar44e1d6bfe4b8f008@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0706202359o4646022dl3aac5e9da22ac8b2@mail.gmail.com> <702226df0706210200jee6baf8n673662a1f2291a95@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <702226df0706210200jee6baf8n673662a1f2291a95@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 89.225.1.59 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 X-Spam-Score-Int: 3 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5104 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: m.kornig@sondal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Selon "Jon \\Top Hat\\ Jones" : > > I've been checking it out, and I've only just started, but I noticed that > > your mp3 for vo cuts off early- I only hear the very beginning of the 'o'. Jon, I've just double-checked the mp3 files on my site: I can't hear anything particular with the vowels in words like {vo}, {coi} and {co'o}. These files aren't smaller (than those for other words) and the recordings don't seem to "cut off early". I've taken great care though not to pronounce the {o} as a diphthong. Could this be the reason why you think something is missing? > > As I said on a different thread, I recorded myself with the basic numbers > > and sounds of Lojban, I made sure they have a decent pause before and after > > so as not to be cut off on playback, I'll send them to you if you'd like. > > > > -- > > mu'o mi'e .topy'at. > > > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu > > > The same thing with 'coi' and 'co'o'- they both sound like 'co'. So you don't hear the diphthong in {coi}? That's strange. I can hear it very clearly though on my system. Jon, I thank you a lot for your feedback and for your recordings which I have (eventually) been able to listen to. Unfortunately, they all have quite some background noise. (Maybe a noisy environment? Sometimes it helps to switch off the loudspeakers while recording...). Do you think (you Jon and the others) learners would appreciate listening to these recordings nevertheless (maybe along with my own)? Martin