From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jun 24 06:53:00 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 24 Jun 2007 06:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I2SVp-0002Mf-Rj for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 06:52:31 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.250]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I2SVB-0002LV-0O for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 06:52:03 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b21so327529ana for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 06:51:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ei0Qe2GXqN8SUzyT49dm072uVmguklvwvaPolUrQuL1J7NBjwojJCqAYr/f0eWneY1a7r34wX+2g7wTQxgrad5ghFWI+/rKNzIL2sNwpnHAO8E4FRYP3CjLsxA3ho4qyT3Q7DtrEpm5yQlPkF3MyKYIpIBVTr5CZvxGXg+qhelU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aEsn5f+XrvYmBH+pXfn+Qyu/h6YJpwS+naKx5MnjYJec2K7dtfBC7/GvLelYqvDMYhpaJf7m2exsy0ElsmFZoX5cGANNCcFnPibkQo1tVcRfC7PxKUbg0hLuDHrcOJkUCLS6HRdz2AgsuE4S2Q0e7jCyzbSFI2wjqaP+6ilYIlQ= Received: by 10.100.13.12 with SMTP id 12mr2649735anm.1182693098542; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 06:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.42.17 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 06:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560706240651i34be991dk9be8dd993ed5b2c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:51:38 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: More phonology: voiced/unvoiced and fricative/fricative In-Reply-To: <1182681340.467e48fc934c6@ssl0.ovh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <467D42AA.3090704@online.de> <1182681340.467e48fc934c6@ssl0.ovh.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5129 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 6/24/07, m.kornig@sondal.net wrote: > > For instance why are words like {c}, {f}, {pst}, {m} > {kj}, {pc} or {gr} fobidden in Lojban? {kj} is forbidden because it is a unvoiced-voiced pair. The others are not forbidden, they are all valid cmevla. There is an experimental cmavo {ki'ai} that would turn a cmevla into an interjection: Also related: mu'o mi'e xorxes