From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jun 27 20:18:00 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I3kW6-0008Sp-KA for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:18:00 -0700 Received: from web56405.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([216.252.111.84]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I3kVz-0008Se-VY for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:17:57 -0700 Received: (qmail 63430 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Jun 2007 03:17:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=lTcA45eHshipJ0881THM/DpOojLj6bL8W2X6oMLz8/jKuwqHzDEgdCrE3+9s5JQFzIGuXCkzLLEiV0AO6jInnDjbqEpNwMxtZZTn7V87Yd5PEW3UgQQwfFnn2/pW74SVQ3me5Y1Cj4nmpsnCqt65ntYPQJlkdUAyryJE9BsM/hk=; X-YMail-OSG: UbCvJ_wVM1l62dR4Of5jmYqCe3aOxuKI1FasV0K2lTlvemYlFMihaSigiy_6XOOyng-- Received: from [75.0.145.177] by web56405.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:17:45 PDT Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:17:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathaniel Krause Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: I'm... My name's... To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <1182972283.4682b97b1df16@ssl0.ovh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-264845188-1183000665=:63410" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <562467.63410.qm@web56405.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: 5 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5168 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: nathanielkrause@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0-264845188-1183000665=:63410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I wouldn't recommend {doi ma} for "What's your name?" or "Who are you?", or {doi djein} for "You are Jane." I would think the normal answer to {doi ma} would be {xu mi}, which, ironically, means roughly the same thing in English as it does in Lojban. mi'e .sen. m.kornig@sondal.net wrote: Maybe a summary is useful here. I've learned the following: "What's your name?" {ma cmene do} or {doi ma} "I'm Tim." or "My name's Tim." {zo tim cmene mi} or {mi'e tim} "Your are Jane." or "Your name is Jane." {zo djein cmene do} {doi djein} "What's his name?" or "What's her name?" (pointing at someone) {ma cmene ta} "What's my name?" {ma cmene mi} or {mi'e ma} "I'm Tim and this is Jane." (pointing at Jane) {zo tim cmene mi i zo djein cmene ti} or {mi'e tim i zo djein cmene ti} In the examples with {cmene} I stick to the default place order to keep it simple. I've also used "bare" names instead of quoted names where possible. Could an experienced Lojban speaker please check/confirm? Martin --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. --0-264845188-1183000665=:63410 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I wouldn't recommend {doi ma} for "What's your name?" or "Who are you?", or {doi djein} for "You are Jane." I would think the normal answer to {doi ma} would be {xu mi}, which, ironically, means roughly the same thing in English as it does in Lojban.

mi'e .sen.

m.kornig@sondal.net wrote:
Maybe a summary is useful here. I've learned
the following:

"What's your name?"
{ma cmene do} or {doi ma}

"I'm Tim." or "My name's Tim."
{zo tim cmene mi} or {mi'e tim}

"Your are Jane." or "Your name is Jane."
{zo djein cmene do} {doi djein}

"What's his name?" or "What's her name?" (pointing at someone)
{ma cmene ta}

"What's my name?"
{ma cmene mi} or {mi'e ma}

"I'm Tim and this is Jane." (pointing at Jane)
{zo tim cmene mi i zo djein cmene ti} or {mi'e tim i zo djein cmene ti}

In the examples with {cmene} I stick to the
default place order to keep it simple. I've
also used "bare" names instead of quoted names
where possible.

Could an experienced Lojban speaker please
check/confirm?

Martin




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