From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jun 27 23:48:02 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I3nnO-00049C-A2 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:48:02 -0700 Received: from 25.mail-out.ovh.net ([213.186.37.103]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I3nnI-00048q-Gg for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:48:01 -0700 Received: (qmail 3602 invoked by uid 503); 28 Jun 2007 06:48:14 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 28 Jun 2007 06:48:14 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail13.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 25.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2007 06:48:14 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2007 06:47:44 -0000 Received: from 130.26-225-89.dsl.completel.net (130.26-225-89.dsl.completel.net [89.225.26.130]) by ssl0.ovh.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:47:44 +0200 Message-ID: <1183013264.46835990a4c68@ssl0.ovh.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:47:44 +0200 From: m.kornig@sondal.net To: Lojban mailing for beginners Subject: [lojban-beginners] {mi'e tim} MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 89.225.26.130 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 2 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5171 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: m.kornig@sondal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners I understand this means "Tim speaking". So in my mind this would be useful if you answer the phone or start a chat, i.e. AT THE BEGINNING of a conversion with a person who can't see you. Right? If the person can see you (or recognize you by other means) you would juch say {coi} to start a conversation, I think. Or maybe {coi djein} if you address yourself to your friend Jane, for example. If all this is correct, I wonder why many Lojbanists sign their emails with {mi'e tim}, where {tim} is only an example for the name of the person. Wouldn't it be more sensible to START one's email with {mi'e tim}? Martin