From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jun 28 07:40:01 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I3vA8-0005qF-J2 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:40:01 -0700 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.231]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I3vA4-0005pr-4H for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:40:00 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 76so469713wra for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:39:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=s638kxHQSqk4MXm7M+KRKQWmEWYfG0IobrE/ciwfD7x3KY+Rh/jE1Io+lZJKrVszoTYA0Ho1YupoPVUVqMhaDbv/N5vXS660hAVl3hNM9nDpGCyqBkTR0AzYU3Lgv82JI1wcqTLgsd4z5wmLvte2WuzZUkZemd50hvcy+hX2tGk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QaOLeHEuXVZ/esg9bV0vjGhjQggPB4273XCAIVvRcKvZhfL4Eb0nCzH18R2VM9lepg6ex5ktr5TWyGGJAlf+yY1E6JNX2XaduFVb0gV3Af4ifcfuW9HVYj16qdrdA1wN5+qTZN5TPQx1pOE4jGpvGhyRMk+CaB/LSofxtVqDj3s= Received: by 10.100.132.16 with SMTP id f16mr1145776and.1183041593964; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.42.17 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560706280739t5ea5227cif8ea47f8ef1ac5eb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:39:53 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: la In-Reply-To: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7E17@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7E17@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5175 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 6/28/07, Turniansky, Michael [UNK] wrote: > > In answer to your P.S.... well, you can certainly call yourself that, > but it would imply a derivation of "a corporate coldness". Or "corporate cool" :) I wouldn't say {kaglek} really implies that, that's just one of the many suggestive readings it can have. For example, the name {bancus} suggests to me both "bancu+s" and "ban+cus". There are no rules for constructing cmevla out of other elements of the language, it just has to end in a consonant and respect the phonological rules, but there are no compositional rules. Lojbab once mentioned that they gave their daughter the name "Katrina" because it suggests {ka trina}. Lojbanized as {katrinas} or {katrin} the suggestion will still be there, though in the latter case there is also the kat+rin reading. > What you are looking for is kamgek or kamglek Those would be open to fewer suggestions than kaglek, yes, but it is not as if kaglek must necessarily be read as the combination kag+lek. Perhaps kaglek might be preferred just because one thinks it sounds better. > (or even "kamgei", which would > definitely have the meaning, rather than merely implying a derivation) > if you are trying to derive from "ka gleki". Yes, using a lujvo does give a transparent origin. You could even be called {la ka gleki}, but that would require terminators much more often. mu'o mi'e xorxes