From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jul 16 10:46:47 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IAUek-0000hi-Mf for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:46:47 -0700 Received: from 25.mail-out.ovh.net ([213.186.37.103]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IAUeh-0000ha-9B for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:46:46 -0700 Received: (qmail 5284 invoked by uid 503); 16 Jul 2007 17:47:03 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 16 Jul 2007 17:47:03 -0000 Received: from gw2.ovh.net (HELO mail18.ha.ovh.net) (213.251.189.202) by 25.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jul 2007 17:47:03 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 16 Jul 2007 17:46:34 -0000 Received: from 254.24-225-89.dsl.completel.net (254.24-225-89.dsl.completel.net [89.225.24.254]) by ssl0.ovh.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:46:34 +0200 Message-ID: <1184607994.469baefa9f502@ssl0.ovh.net> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:46:34 +0200 From: m.kornig@sondal.net To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: double letters References: <925d17560707140740j4b9c3422s247213f558703a38@mail.gmail.com> <127184.51719.qm@web56406.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <925d17560707160809j7cd27c87ve3506d54831c66f7@mail.gmail.com> <1184602785.469b9aa1c7f5d@ssl0.ovh.net> <925d17560707160936g1b315659vb5b63277c2be8481@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560707160936g1b315659vb5b63277c2be8481@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 89.225.24.254 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 2 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5220 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: m.kornig@sondal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Selon Jorge Llambías : > On 7/16/07, m.kornig@sondal.net wrote: > > Selon Jorge Llambías : > > > > > > There are exactly 10 valid nuclei: a, e, i, o, u, ai, au, ei, oi, y. > > > > Jorge, you seem to have missed out a number of diphthongs. > > At least the following: ia, ie, io, iu, ua, ue, ui, ua. Actually > > all eight are cmavo! > > It is possible to count rising diphthongs as nuclei, but then the > rules become more complicated, because then you have to say which > onsets are allowed to go with which nuclei. I find it more parsimonius > to treat the i/u in rising diphthongs as part of the onset. Okay. But then you have onsets which are vowels and not consonants. I find this a bit confusing... Martin