From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jul 16 12:23:43 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IAWAY-0003Rk-Tr for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:23:43 -0700 Received: from netscaler1.rice.edu ([128.42.205.5] helo=mh3.mail.rice.edu) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IAWAW-0003RZ-8X for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:23:42 -0700 Received: from mh3.mail.rice.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mh3.mail.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3233B2880D8 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:23:34 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis-2.4.4 at mh3.mail.rice.edu Received: from mh3.mail.rice.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mh3.mail.rice.edu (mh3.mail.rice.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qaVbUMTiUH1t for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:23:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Starlight (c-24-18-203-65.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [24.18.203.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mh3.mail.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFF3288134 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:23:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "Marjorie Scherf" To: References: <925d17560707140740j4b9c3422s247213f558703a38@mail.gmail.com> <127184.51719.qm@web56406.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <925d17560707160809j7cd27c87ve3506d54831c66f7@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560707160941k5cd69c0bp53cd74a3e313a32d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: double letters Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:22:00 -0700 Message-ID: <003401c7c7de$96173940$0300a8c0@Starlight> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis In-Reply-To: <925d17560707160941k5cd69c0bp53cd74a3e313a32d@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcfHz7YPx1noIDmpSTOl4h0F/XbOUwADk+ag X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 X-Spam-Score-Int: 7 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5222 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mls1@rice.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Jorge Llambías Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:41 AM To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: double letters On 7/16/07, Jorge Llambías wrote: > > The phonotactic constraints for syllable combinations are as follows: > > 1- A syllable with onset ' must be preceded by an open syllable. > 2- A syllable with voiced coda cannot be followed by one with > unvoiced onset, and viceversa. > 3- A syllable with sibilant coda (s, c, z, j) cannot be followed > by one that starts with a sibilant. > 4. A syllable with coda "x" cannot be followed by one that starts > with "k" or "c", and viceversa. > 5. A syllable with coda "m" cannot be followed by one that starts with "z". > 6. A syllable with coda "n" cannot be followed by one with onset "tc", "ts", > "dj" or "dz". One rule I did miss is that a syllable with a coda cannot be followed by a syllable whose onset begins with that same consonant. mu'o mi'e xorxes When is i or u used as an onset without being proceded by . or ' or consonant? This might be more consistant (and more correct) if you add .i and .u as onsets with the other Ci and Cu, and then omit the simple i and u unless there are examples. mu'mi'e .skarazgik.