From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Aug 09 21:02:47 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IJLi0-0007aK-TE for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:02:45 -0700 Received: from web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([216.252.111.82]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IJLhx-0007a5-Du for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:02:44 -0700 Received: (qmail 5187 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Aug 2007 04:02:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Vg4nO7a/92J//A/O4U9UuD6o2CpuT+2Z/NA8lB4hlwQ/+eybwqyx3S8mPT+zh4HuBDbCNetUsf1K7qI7sWFRgoFcqmHBwtJQZMuOaxbV9qptmxdP1cLAvfbMVWR6xFx4V3zIEE7zxfHm5l4iv7Jb8bL4gy5Bs2nDuW8dl4MLpkA=; X-YMail-OSG: wsxJ9zMVM1mQtGmCxQCNe05vCh5vgAZWlPiWVDOhZp99dS20VGOif4Whau6gXIlu1xQtp0SSIT2GM1xBCmMBCQeg7nzPEn3ovVXZqxoOYimg1fV2PAKRLJUkZ.oUCQa.8.dVX.X5rLa43vTnAtip7E4- Received: from [76.237.193.116] by web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:02:34 PDT Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 21:02:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathaniel Krause Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: anti-Zipfian gismu rant To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <46BBDB4D.6020401@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1859484552-1186718554=:4184" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <398993.4184.qm@web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5327 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: nathanielkrause@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0-1859484552-1186718554=:4184 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Can someone clarify Lojban's semantic philosophy in this regard? I was under the impression that for something to be a ro'erbroda it must by definition be an instance of a brode broda and, more broadly, an instance of a broda. Is the statement {lo'e ro'erbroda na broda} logically contradictory? mu'o mi'e .sen. Robert LeChevalier wrote: It doesn't have to be a gerku or a labno, to be expressible with a lujvo of either. What is wrong with "friko-kalte-gerku"? --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. --0-1859484552-1186718554=:4184 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Can someone clarify Lojban's semantic philosophy in this regard? I was under the impression that for something to be a ro'erbroda it must by definition be an instance of a brode broda and, more broadly, an instance of a broda. Is the statement {lo'e ro'erbroda na broda} logically contradictory?

mu'o mi'e .sen.

Robert LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
It doesn't have to be a gerku or a labno, to be expressible with a lujvo
of either.

What is wrong with "friko-kalte-gerku"?

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