From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Aug 11 11:11:45 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IJvRA-0003n4-Fc for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:11:45 -0700 Received: from web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([216.252.111.82]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IJvR7-0003mp-OR for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:11:44 -0700 Received: (qmail 17052 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Aug 2007 18:11:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Q0UX/ImZVKXaxsIqC1mBZ9cx/tY2Q5CSHZ03Th1dtSVdzqldSbrnz+t0GnqzSBqTe4W3KBORPYtjJvZWCnOPMD6rdIUvTDKxluBz5DwT2NFuYyIEfrpxAvUbt+psg/OK06Xw+Yw/cXLFNwgonG4iMsSovSAZQncS3hyuSL7ywck=; X-YMail-OSG: XuffQVcVM1kfzqibPEU3_9soQAsuB5SSIdt1bK3LboaPbu6b7ASbKswMkoir7rnuY90KOlGpK.kIdliWsryVcnxzO6YYS2J2OWLP2w.25Qzli3rLLrh7rJrpQ5F0Tw-- Received: from [76.217.70.225] by web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:11:35 PDT Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:11:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathaniel Krause Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: anti-Zipfian gismu rant To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <46BB3C86.7060107@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1382238901-1186855895=:16228" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <194050.16228.qm@web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5348 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: nathanielkrause@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0-1382238901-1186855895=:16228 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robert LeChevalier wrote: Loglan/Lojban did attempt to consider usage frequency, but our basis was Helen Eaton's 1930s "Semantic Frequency List" which makes an effort to account for concepts as opposed to mere word forms. It only covered 4 European languages, but even that removed some of the English biases. By the way (I realise I've asked about this on the list before, but perhaps someone has new information), does anybody currently have access to the Eaton list? I'd like to get my hands on it. Thanks, sen --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. --0-1382238901-1186855895=:16228 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robert LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
Loglan/Lojban did attempt to consider usage frequency, but our basis was
Helen Eaton's 1930s "Semantic Frequency List" which makes an effort to
account for concepts as opposed to mere word forms. It only covered 4
European languages, but even that removed some of the English biases.

By the way (I realise I've asked about this on the list before, but perhaps someone has new information), does anybody currently have access to the Eaton list? I'd like to get my hands on it.

Thanks,

sen

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