From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Aug 22 07:27:14 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1INrAw-0006li-B2 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:27:14 -0700 Received: from express.cec.wustl.edu ([128.252.21.16]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1INrAt-0006lZ-R1 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:27:14 -0700 Received: from hive.cec.wustl.edu (hive.cec.wustl.edu [128.252.21.14]) by express.cec.wustl.edu (8.13.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id l7MER4fF016128 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:27:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from hive.cec.wustl.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hive.cec.wustl.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l7MER4Cc017153; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:27:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (adam@localhost) by hive.cec.wustl.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id l7MER3Tk017150; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:27:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: hive.cec.wustl.edu: adam owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:27:03 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam D. Lopresto" To: lojban-beginners cc: Vid Sintef Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: sevzi kosta In-Reply-To: <46CE0988@webmail.bcpl.net> Message-ID: References: <46CE0988@webmail.bcpl.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-58716651-418824192-1187792823=:16273" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. X-archive-position: 5413 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: adam@pubcrawler.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ---58716651-418824192-1187792823=:16273 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by express.cec.wustl.edu id l7MER4fF016128 On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, turnip wrote: > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Original Message From "Vid Sintef" =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >On 8/21/07, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote: > >> What would you make of {le ninmu cu lebna le sevzi kosta le nanmu}? > >> Whose coat is it? > > > >Mm, you're right. It's unclear. > > > >How about {le ninmu cu cpacu le sevzi kosta}? > > > >mu'o mi'e vid >=20 > All this talk of a sevzi kosta makes me think of some sort of self-aw= are=20 > coat..... That's my problem, too. I would expect a {sevzi kosta} to be a particula= r kind of coat, some sort of "self-coat". I wouldn't expect it to refer to= a coat that belongs to someone else mentioned nearby. Maybe what you want = is {le ninmu cu cpacu le se ponse [be ri] kosta}, but I really don't underst= and what you're trying to achieve, and why you think it would work better tha= n {le ninmu cu cpacu le ri kosta} in the first place. --=20 Adam Lopresto http://cec.wustl.edu/~adam/ He used often to say there was only one Road; that it was like a great ri= ver: its springs were at every doorstep, and every path was its tributary. "It= 's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out of your door," he used to say. "You = step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where= you might be swept off to." Frodo, quoting Bilbo ---58716651-418824192-1187792823=:16273--