From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Aug 22 21:40:38 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IO4Un-0005mL-9s for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:40:37 -0700 Received: from dsl081-066-183.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.66.183] helo=pinfu.digitalkingdom.org ident=Debian-exim) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IO49H-0004Wn-Nc for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:18:26 -0700 Received: from server26.publicompserver.de ([80.190.246.140]) by pinfu.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1INviy-0005dS-NY for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:18:40 -0700 Received: from [192.168.0.117] (dslb-088-076-194-180.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.76.194.180]) by server26.publicompserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C514EE873 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:57:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <46CC8724.1010300@kdas.de> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:57:40 +0200 From: "Konstantin D. A. Scheller" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Vocabulary-learning... References: <46CFADA0@webmail.bcpl.net> <925d17560708221128u6eddfe86xcd45b089b9991ff8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560708221128u6eddfe86xcd45b089b9991ff8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5418 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: kdas@kdas.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Hi I started learning Lojban a few months ago but I didn't get far... I think the problem is that it was hard for me to learn the vocabulary - especially as the Lojban for beginners- course doesn't give any vocabulary- lists. I started creating my own but it was quite hard as they were most of the time to "random" (for example when learning Chinese I had whole texts - so I always could learn vocabulary that had some inner connection). Has anybody had similar problems? Is there an easier- to-learn vocabulary lists with texts? Good would be pronounciation- examples too (I found some at lojban.org but I felt the Russian accent was so strong that I'm not sure I got the right idea how it should sound... ) thanks for your help :) kdas