From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Aug 23 00:42:33 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IO7Kq-00042h-TM for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:42:33 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IO7Ko-00042V-4M for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:42:32 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 4so276303nfv for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:42:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NOViMmp4iows3P2U3o4TtHgigvZHViNsl9lwcBhragKDyE6aZHj3hTkdWgZhr0GyK+s68OwBzuHsbwo8d3hQ+MGRqoXHBWIGvkGCMs4nuv92WBXof923iCA6BtMRvuBT19+62Q62raOwVPA8ZsU/1KiyqV33lP2w/0z+nqgMqMk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ktaNMRT6fabEWZHRYLoT6wkrvTKGTkFj8PGxCQVTq/VihFiiyrVI8uTxCvY9OJSUlh9HXD08Y4O6qEC3sZDZArnPfdVC0EJ7vIxrJSzlNl7wqDN04vRTSLIBQBu80c0E4dn6fSkZ2D97ZdxPjDNDlIHfhEAqTqbH54lB5a3dTTo= Received: by 10.78.180.18 with SMTP id c18mr1017556huf.1187854947853; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.159.5 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <64e5cd9c0708230042i694b2831ye4a552b96a14a5e3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:42:27 -0700 From: "Mike Zink" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Vocabulary-learning... In-Reply-To: <46CC8724.1010300@kdas.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <46CFADA0@webmail.bcpl.net> <925d17560708221128u6eddfe86xcd45b089b9991ff8@mail.gmail.com> <46CC8724.1010300@kdas.de> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5419 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: zuwiki@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Yeah, I have been learning vocabulary with jMemorize, and although the lists are grouped according to "learning order" or something like that, I couldn't see any connections. Using Parallels 2, and then making lists (easy in jMemorize or other flashcard programs) according to that could work, but I haven't tried. On 8/22/07, Konstantin D. A. Scheller wrote: > Hi > > I started learning Lojban a few months ago but I didn't get far... I > think the problem is that it was hard for me to learn the vocabulary - > especially as the Lojban for beginners- course doesn't give any > vocabulary- lists. I started creating my own but it was quite hard as > they were most of the time to "random" (for example when learning > Chinese I had whole texts - so I always could learn vocabulary that had > some inner connection). > > Has anybody had similar problems? Is there an easier- to-learn > vocabulary lists with texts? Good would be pronounciation- examples too > (I found some at lojban.org but I felt the Russian accent was so strong > that I'm not sure I got the right idea how it should sound... ) > > thanks for your help :) kdas > > > > -- - Mike Zink