From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Sep 27 08:46:10 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IavZ3-0007Tx-Ll for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:46:10 -0700 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.180]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IavZ1-0007Tm-Iw for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:46:09 -0700 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m16so3197942waf for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:46:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=f3RqSRtSuEcHYlOwO8Ac5UUN2JsbAW9yaL+NRyGyd68=; b=F1wj4t/a0ct/6SJGzyE2h0RUmsZ+b/p/scOPaf3vzcPOgbnEzS7uLniVjBYKzLLzCrRuO8recJ3psBEZuO5NGpRw10BxEpbGitnWSJbPEVGf0SfIQSXUopJqKJPsg9pqtCYFkrO5sBO7O0pLMxn2NdSrvz8EBmV6okPczxDb8Ck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JqO4yztp4Lv9gfhf/3Xmy2aPULRHSXWgYNs08ylJuJp8JVMi190CAU2RvVyrBfwDF63xP5H8DCnqOtn03c1AerqOoYC1BA8tcZz/LwaFKxaKyWzrtPIlEVUYxcU2CXCqXKefJlxfDQDsxWM+sU7s/N5s2atSJ8QsJKbD07ewWcI= Received: by 10.114.107.19 with SMTP id f19mr682041wac.1190907960591; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.16.20 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:46:00 -0400 From: "Matt Arnold" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: My Intro...with a request for help as a bonus. In-Reply-To: <00b101c80122$5da0e340$e18e6d0a@Starlight> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200709262152.54117.phma@phma.optus.nu> <00b101c80122$5da0e340$e18e6d0a@Starlight> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5442 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 9/27/07, Marjorie Scherf wrote: > Eppcott, > How can you type {wybu} in lojban if there is no 'w'? > mu'omi'e .skaryzgik. > We don't. Lojban does not use the 'w' character of the keyboard. {wybu} is a Lojban way to talk about a glyph that exists in langauges other than Lojban, just like talking about Greek or Cyrillic glyphs. The only glyphs of of Lojban are: abcdefg ijklmnop rstuv xyz ' No 'h', 'q', or 'w'. The sound like English 'w' happens in Lojban when the 'u' character (pronounced 'oo') is connected to another vowel in one of these configurations: ua ue ui uo uu iu au (wah, wheh, wee, whoah, woo, you, ow) By the way, the only time the English sound of the character 'y' is used in Lojban works the same way. ia ie ii io iu ei ai oi ui (yah, yeh, yee, yoe, you, A, eye, oy, wee). The 'y' glyph is not used for this in Lojban. In Lojban that letter makes an 'uh' sound. -Eppcott