From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Oct 18 08:10:41 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:10:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IiX1E-00072j-Ri for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:10:41 -0700 Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.182]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IiX1C-00072Z-0J for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:10:40 -0700 Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j27so62646elf for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:10:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=yYZ8nc49yTTM+NaBvnX1PiIFeXhznMlYzWUeVtamC9c=; b=SvUBpGfKXEaFy7vTnJWypIs7l/CXRO7EudzEAJ7TLi80sUHVPF3VDGM2ldwrAwDJalsgy2U50st4aHRlSQozA0FsnNDwt5lL2j9bL+E1ysm3NGU5eN51heltW291fxvQiP+eza+AMs+cGTJKV/8ic1wVokH+N/qnFbeIyXK/NfA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=aHuCdxUCL5wnDRFRoqykzA3bWyOfYVNO/pWXQPha088fqd6ASg6Lftt4U0qTxlvrbCjGwlwMC5XLXJn2AnVLRojut3UTTx0iujafDZaqheoPaoVHk46suTbps4m4OLHaZnS52pXNbkBJ3B7VPyETwu0Mw0xD9tEGBnuSzEc6rYA= Received: by 10.142.229.4 with SMTP id b4mr193431wfh.1192720233401; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.39.4 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:10:33 -0700 From: "David Cortesi" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] "With /n/ confidence..." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3205_16941602.1192720233395" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5497 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: davecortesi@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_3205_16941602.1192720233395 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline A general beginner question (altho it could also bear on the {lo}{le} discussion preceding): Is there a concise way to prefix a sentence (as in a scientific paper): "With 89% confidence we maintain...."? Or more generally, "I the speaker am confident at the N level that..." -- for N a real number 1>N>=0. Although "with N confidence" is pedantic and stuffy in scientific papers, such a prefix, if concise, could have more general use in a logical language. "I'm 90% sure I will go to the store..." or "the noise in the bushes that I am .75 certain is a bear..." Some useful idioms could follow, like "With zero confidence I assert" as a whimsical way of saying "baloney", etc. ------=_Part_3205_16941602.1192720233395 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline A general beginner question (altho it could also bear on the {lo}{le} discussion preceding): Is there a concise way to prefix a sentence (as in a scientific paper): "With 89% confidence we maintain...."? Or more generally, "I the speaker am confident at the N level that..." -- for N a real number 1>N>=0.

Although "with N confidence" is pedantic and stuffy in scientific papers, such a prefix, if concise, could have more general use in a logical language. "I'm 90% sure I will go to the store..." or "the noise in the bushes that I am .75 certain is a bear..."  Some useful idioms could follow, like "With zero confidence I assert" as a whimsical way of saying "baloney", etc.


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