From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Oct 18 09:11:37 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IiXyD-00015M-40 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:11:37 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IiXyA-00015D-BO for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:11:36 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 4so160236nfv for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:11:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+in6nNOl91I5tFachziOqQvLZVELtjewuQlHFH60pj4=; b=Bf5HwWqBMNEym8SkDDRiZ22DiDscTz7x+wBPn5bRELa+C77/lZ94m98DCEr0/vE/hAbpKS/kIb+pwjFhNI/93gRBzYh5gQvc6Twv9TyzcxiqRD6sQJ7ih+Z/E0oVBTOts+bRG2SrKxAq/N/M83slxBb6oWEiLLfVNtGPJshxApg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RoSjfXHdgfaLoa8VdtYYlHLDQ+vhG66WJy8Mh2MD9Chs4BH8a8E65mZsuqtmgYt4tJJYjyRGEQj9Y+Q2475AFWaNfB64hrBk/rn+KLV4rSeCnumDkZjsbMXNPEYwmvpw0zzuSyvQ+DNuNGtIQf5ieGD4f+rnMQFdaLvf9YHs7IM= Received: by 10.86.66.1 with SMTP id o1mr576263fga.1192723892521; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560710180911r61f51d1au6e5c90b63b54a724@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:11:32 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "With /n/ confidence..." In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5498 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 10/18/07, David Cortesi wrote: > > Although "with N confidence" is pedantic and stuffy in scientific papers, > such a prefix, if concise, could have more general use in a logical > language. "I'm 90% sure I will go to the store..." or "the noise in the > bushes that I am .75 certain is a bear..." Some useful idioms could follow, > like "With zero confidence I assert" as a whimsical way of saying "baloney", > etc. What you describe would have to be a cmavo of selma'o MAI, that turns a number into an indicator, but here are only two cmavo there {mai} and {mo'o}, which have a different meaning. You can always create your own indicator with {sei}, but that's a bit more wordy (though not much more than in English) for example {sei mi sonoce'i va'e birti}, {sei mi pizemu va'e birti}. mu'o mi'e xorxes