From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Oct 18 09:47:21 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IiYWm-00027r-Mw for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:47:20 -0700 Received: from netscaler2.rice.edu ([128.42.206.5] helo=mh2.mail.rice.edu) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IiYWl-00027k-4h for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:47:20 -0700 Received: from mh2.mail.rice.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mh2.mail.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D177E36C2EF for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:47:12 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis-2.4.4 at mh2.mail.rice.edu Received: from mh2.mail.rice.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by mh2.mail.rice.edu (mh2.mail.rice.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vW0CZwLt3jAP for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:47:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Starlight (student-109-mar142-225.rice.edu [10.109.142.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mh2.mail.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DD036C244 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:47:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Marjorie Scherf" To: References: <925d17560710180911r61f51d1au6e5c90b63b54a724@mail.gmail.com> <004501c811aa$5d58eac0$e18e6d0a@Starlight> <925d17560710180938g774a2540rcfd1d49051c0f475@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "With /n/ confidence..." Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:44:56 -0600 Message-ID: <004601c811ae$988f29c0$e18e6d0a@Starlight> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis In-Reply-To: <925d17560710180938g774a2540rcfd1d49051c0f475@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcgRpZxS8wEsNxm7QG+/IdwR5RiG2AACG0ZA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5502 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mls1@rice.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Jorge Llambías Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:39 AM To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "With /n/ confidence..." On 10/18/07, Marjorie Scherf wrote: > > If a good brivla can be found to convey amount of certainty, you could use > the modal place prefix {fi'o} to add a place to the structure. I was thinking of a numerically graded {ju'o}, but yes, adding a place with {fi'o} looks like a different possible approach. "Amount of certainty" would be {nilbirti}, at least with one understanding of {ni}, which would give {fi'o nilbirti li ...}. mu'o mi'e xorxes That looks a lot better than the horrendously long lujvo I was trying to string together out of {lakne ka birti kei se klani}. I really should look more carefully for useful cmavo before trying to build the whole idea out of gismu. mu'omi'e .skaryzgik.