From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Oct 23 06:48:31 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IkK78-0005Tx-1c for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:48:26 -0700 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.176]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IkK6g-0005Sh-E3 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:48:05 -0700 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m16so1740598waf for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:47:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=qAU4gVmsRdmMoBbQ4YAjApPBVhcK5C2wCxiM4MED6uI=; b=ZaJH/3nKGeD0mv1ftoD9ZbwWlGim5JzmC+po9nLsEQZrHxDwuLPeaMil28uP7FrgD2yPNw3tW8uBnjVAiv5YNs0y7u3vDJuzFJTJIAQbSrRcJBrGgnLHFqyVLyFgcZKPEzwoEp4lpbhNu/wx2nwPTm8d5pVkNj7uu6PUMH5yDnc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=CElVASdMfECJymJb1EnB0xifIyeE5CwKS1javZClnAtMt4Ns22dPkkgRoBkjX1ARFBxBI+E2CE2HvOry0HeX3D7+2hxswlUK9AZDvvx1aIYFj1u9a4T0gGvTrUKtA/fTNlfyhinJRnxKed8qLJ+5roUOtz/N57gwLv6eYrBNBE0= Received: by 10.115.23.12 with SMTP id a12mr5718237waj.1193147242396; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.19.14 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12d58c160710230647x743b01a6id321802d62a5ed1a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:47:22 -0400 From: "komfo,amonan" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: learning to climb on floors In-Reply-To: <71550650710230541x67eadfe9kdc09ea83de559add@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1471_5015117.1193147242392" References: <6ee9d0ca0710222351q7547a487q41a4e89b31ab2f30@mail.gmail.com> <200710230703.04940.phma@phma.optus.nu> <71550650710230541x67eadfe9kdc09ea83de559add@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7c4d8df352e274a7 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5535 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: komfoamonan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_1471_5015117.1193147242392 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/23/07, Yoav Nir wrote: > > Should it be {lo nu cpare}, or should we use {du'u} or {su'u}? > I thought that {nu} is specific to events, whereas {su'u} is more general. > Or is crawling an event/achievement? > {nu} refers to events not in the sense of "Eurovision Song Contest" events, but generally to occurrences, things that happen. You can sometimes be more specific by using {zu'o}, {za'i}, {mu'e}, {pu'u}. {su'u} is the most general abstractor; it can pretty much stand in for all members of NU. On 10/23/07, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > > .i la kan,r. cilre lo du'u muvgau lo mokau sluni kei lo nu cpare > > mi na djuno lo smuni be di'u i u'i je ku'i la'a la'e ri xajmi i mu'o mi'e komfn ------=_Part_1471_5015117.1193147242392 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/23/07, Yoav Nir <yoav.nir@gmail.com> wrote:
Should it be {lo nu cpare}, or should we use {du'u} or {su'u}?

I thought that {nu} is specific to events, whereas {su'u} is more general. Or is crawling an event/achievement?

{nu} refers to events not in the sense of "Eurovision Song Contest" events, but generally to occurrences, things that happen. You can sometimes be more specific by using {zu'o}, {za'i}, {mu'e}, {pu'u}.

{su'u} is the most general abstractor; it can pretty much stand in for all members of NU.

On 10/23/07, Pierre Abbat < phma@phma.optus.nu > wrote:
.i la kan,r. cilre lo du'u muvgau lo mokau sluni kei lo nu cpare

mi na djuno lo smuni be di'u i u'i je ku'i la'a la'e ri xajmi

i mu'o mi'e komfn

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