From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Oct 25 12:43:03 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Il8be-0001B8-0Z for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:43:02 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.191]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Il8bX-0001Ap-5y for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:43:01 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 4so493215nfv for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:42:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=F6jUsBOyIALGTjCCr9NljW2LYGB71+1hLjnQJG7UiqU=; b=XsHov3kjRT4MTzfZAyCW0GIeYuQ/bJzIpjf+U85D9koDVqlN0H0mdjPF6x5u5jP0QUhtkEBIh84Loa3y/2/gCklzMPHYCp0Jl0syQJ7YCCcToPZd4/JHlyfZlhiZV38u1rn3Srxc4D66WMB6QmPvmt/U2B7NDv7I+BFkySDK7Rc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sxRfA345IqHyZIEzlhNMF7D8VriUkZGfl2O0lfh5ps2DzMiZcqCUWpJZOpXZ/aI4hfALmIXsESgo7vx4EYksG7NDaUu1ed2eSliqv+vjTsdB67sVshXaxtGloDDfifDr/piQn/SAfPSWOlzruB2IhbUAJ42RDxiHg7GiIphfzrY= Received: by 10.86.51.2 with SMTP id y2mr1604054fgy.1193341363892; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560710251242m4d8b0f9ck83c7a49bebdbd664@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:42:43 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Spelling In-Reply-To: <97f5058c0710251211i28bef488p2dbb55f6f5271809@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <97f5058c0710251211i28bef488p2dbb55f6f5271809@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5635 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 10/25/07, Penguino wrote: > How do you spell within a sentence? For example the English sentence, "Joe > writes the letters "ABC"." la djos ciska lo lerfu no'u abu joi by joi cy Joe writes the letters A, B and C. > If this translates to la djos. ciska lu .abu by. > cy. li'u , wouldn't that mean that he literally wrote the words ".abu by. > cy."? Yes. Of course if you hear rather than read {la djos ciska lu pa re ci li'u} you can't tell whether Joe wrote "pa re ci" or "123" or "1 2 3" or ... Similarly, for those of us that use capital letters to stand for the words abu, by, cy, ... the same way that the numerals 1, 2, 3, ... stand for the words pa, re ci, ... then hearing {la djos ciska lu a bu by cy li'u} we can't really be sure what were the exact symbols written (or if there were spaces, etc.) In any case, we can be sure that whatever the symbols used, the content was the lerfu-string consisting of those four (not three!) Lojban words. mu'o mi'e xorxes