From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Oct 27 11:28:52 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IlqOx-0003AN-Nz for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:28:52 -0700 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.184]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IlqOv-0003AD-7W for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:28:51 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so1048129rvf for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:28:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=inkGe+mzX6731w87TxxYgmZaQ3fgFwhQ7C38KJkJfvk=; b=kJgGrtYF2CW1YX/5b+PoOvNayswGf8LSws0SgA64KoVJifP63Bq9bS0zm+38vyRa5A6gztB/wqaMrYVCvtFVa84pBEHCETNCGf7kaE36GalyeN8PAJIPFX0odq9sJEQZbm7wFsfCLKfjTO03NBKzZftKElKXVxCX/wVLWmlMMJg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cGqpdB7zCkVFou3P7V2aIdwIBHYfxJIu5N5hLesJq6/db5qz8pLJjZiu7p6zuY8IAHAZSBtkKnMbzjEvOqnxa97tNGKyOtGav2qk1qVHWlyUGXRbnQuXtiNLpCWtFOgi2fvE8avTdmv4G/OHGcTL6LS1RcpHvfzylslAu9T9WG0= Received: by 10.141.48.10 with SMTP id a10mr2087965rvk.1193509727151; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.173.8 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:28:47 -0400 From: "Matt Arnold" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Quick Reference Guide for language words In-Reply-To: <2204fa080710270924k2a9b6cbby3b2926a935773b9f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <975a94850710270735t210f5212s8d39dd0003c08578@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560710270759i39867469o9ff60e75905c59c0@mail.gmail.com> <2204fa080710270924k2a9b6cbby3b2926a935773b9f@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5712 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Excellent list, similar to the one I made for myself at the equivalent stage of my learning. The only clarifications I would add are: rafsi: affix syllable (like a suffix or prefix) tanru: metaphoric modifier-phrase bridi: sentence made of arguments connected by a relationship sumti: an argument in a sentence. selbri: the relationship part of a sentence. The way you said it might work better for the way your memory and understanding work, than for the way mine work. -Eppcott On 10/27/07, Jared Angell wrote: > Very helpful, thanks! > > > On 10/27/07, Jorge Llambías wrote: > > On 10/27/07, Joel Shellman wrote: > > > -- Types of words -- > > > cmavo : structure words > > > cmene : names > > > > You may want to distinguish {cmene}, for names in general, from > > {cmevla}, "name-word", which are those words that must end in > > a consonant and can only be used as names. {cmene} is more > > general because any selbri can be used as a name when preceded > > by {la}. Many materials however do use {cmene} in the restricted > > sense of {cmevla}. > > > > > brivla : predicate words of which there are three subtypes: > > > - gismu : root words > > > - lujvo : words constructed from rafsi > > > - fu'ivla : words copied from another language > > > rafsi : word roots for gismu in creating lujvo > > > tanru : word phrase > > > > > > -- Sentence roles -- > > > bridi : predicate > > > selbri : relation/function? > > > sumti : arguments to the selbri > > > > Another word you may run into is: > > > > gadri: article > > > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Jared > > "There is no emotion, there is peace; there is no ignorance, there is > knowledge; there is no passion, there is serenity; there is no death, > there is the Universe" > > "Work smart when you can and hard if you must" > > "When a system is corrupt then it's time for a reformat" > > "Open Source: The light side of computing. It's never too late to join"