From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Oct 27 11:44:06 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ilqdh-0003nj-Iu for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:44:05 -0700 Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ilqdf-0003nc-Bm for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:44:05 -0700 Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 19so2115313fkr for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:44:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Am+RA1P8kV0z3dPwX6PYmsh6jDLT4xjzzIODQ2vd8dI=; b=HC6Cxi0ABRpkmU2FeLNkpu9TRjgHz0veq65Mj/KMsuaaGbxKegyQXF14MJzDsYsyKSYgbunKlcQ48X/4/8Nh/HrGngPuxYWSjJwvFOj0XSfVNtXM17GEj4JBxcjOotBVRDQi3PRten8Pm4834JPBv41FmkYIOoWx2yVzimoZtGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=h+XdfWfUuIpz9uHSjMk3LtH3DYSXjeKlZuHzjX2enrCxBlMP9rzZ7CjPt41i2mDsXMd3HF0LRgb3+kaEaURcKBtyjEDWCOUA20agZpXrmOTPdg1VkU62LBOtOyUkMDU5hTWhWiwk5L1Zq++1V1/QyL6pzW3nMflcAUmrvLDhQgg= Received: by 10.82.177.3 with SMTP id z3mr8503461bue.1193510641520; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.113.2 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2204fa080710271144s29597e52w80e0523933e74671@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:44:01 -0500 From: "Jared Angell" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Quick Reference Guide for language words In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11412_1090754.1193510641519" References: <975a94850710270735t210f5212s8d39dd0003c08578@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560710270759i39867469o9ff60e75905c59c0@mail.gmail.com> <2204fa080710270924k2a9b6cbby3b2926a935773b9f@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5714 X-Approved-By: jkominek@miranda.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: angell.jared@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_11412_1090754.1193510641519 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Can someone place all this on the community blog? On 10/27/07, Matt Arnold wrote: > > Excellent list, similar to the one I made for myself at the equivalent > stage of my learning. The only clarifications I would add are: > > rafsi: affix syllable (like a suffix or prefix) > tanru: metaphoric modifier-phrase > bridi: sentence made of arguments connected by a relationship > sumti: an argument in a sentence. > selbri: the relationship part of a sentence. > > The way you said it might work better for the way your memory and > understanding work, than for the way mine work. > > -Eppcott > > > On 10/27/07, Jared Angell wrote: > > Very helpful, thanks! > > > > > > On 10/27/07, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > > > On 10/27/07, Joel Shellman wrote: > > > > -- Types of words -- > > > > cmavo : structure words > > > > cmene : names > > > > > > You may want to distinguish {cmene}, for names in general, from > > > {cmevla}, "name-word", which are those words that must end in > > > a consonant and can only be used as names. {cmene} is more > > > general because any selbri can be used as a name when preceded > > > by {la}. Many materials however do use {cmene} in the restricted > > > sense of {cmevla}. > > > > > > > brivla : predicate words of which there are three subtypes: > > > > - gismu : root words > > > > - lujvo : words constructed from rafsi > > > > - fu'ivla : words copied from another language > > > > rafsi : word roots for gismu in creating lujvo > > > > tanru : word phrase > > > > > > > > -- Sentence roles -- > > > > bridi : predicate > > > > selbri : relation/function? > > > > sumti : arguments to the selbri > > > > > > Another word you may run into is: > > > > > > gadri: article > > > > > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jared > > > > "There is no emotion, there is peace; there is no ignorance, there is > > knowledge; there is no passion, there is serenity; there is no death, > > there is the Universe" > > > > "Work smart when you can and hard if you must" > > > > "When a system is corrupt then it's time for a reformat" > > > > "Open Source: The light side of computing. It's never too late to join= " > > > > --=20 Jared "There is no emotion, there is peace; there is no ignorance, there is knowledge; there is no passion, there is serenity; there is no death, there is the Universe" "Work smart when you can and hard if you must" "When a system is corrupt then it's time for a reformat" "Open Source: The light side of computing. It's never too late to join" ------=_Part_11412_1090754.1193510641519 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Can someone place all this on the community blog?

On 10/27/07, Matt Arnold= <matt.mattarn@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Excellent = list, similar to the one I made for myself at the equivalent
stage of my= learning. The only clarifications I would add are:

rafsi: affix syllable (like a suffix or prefix)
tanru: metaphori= c modifier-phrase
bridi: sentence made of arguments connected by a relat= ionship
sumti: an argument in a sentence.
selbri: the relationship pa= rt of a sentence.

The way you said it might work better for the way your memory andunderstanding work, than for the way mine work.

-Eppcott

On 10/27/07, Jared Angell < angell.jared@gmail.com> wrote:
> Very helpful, thanks!
>=
>
> On 10/27/07, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 10/27/0= 7, Joel Shellman < jshellman@gmail.com> wrote:> > > -- Types of words --
> > > cmavo : structure w= ords
> > > cmene : names
> >
> > You may want= to distinguish {cmene}, for names in general, from
> > {cmevla}, "name-word", which are those words that m= ust end in
> > a consonant and can only be used as names. {cmene} = is more
> > general because any selbri can be used as a name when = preceded
> > by {la}. Many materials however do use {cmene} in the restric= ted
> > sense of {cmevla}.
> >
> > > brivla := predicate words of which there are three subtypes:
> > > =  - gismu : root words
> > >  - lujvo : words constructed from rafsi
>= ; > >  - fu'ivla : words copied from another language> > > rafsi : word roots for gismu in creating lujvo
> >= ; > tanru : word phrase
> > >
> > > -- Sentence roles --
> > >= bridi : predicate
> > > selbri : relation/function?
> &g= t; > sumti : arguments to the selbri
> >
> > Another w= ord you may run into is:
> >
> > gadri: article
> >
> > mu'= o mi'e xorxes
> >
> >
> >
> >
&g= t;
>
>
> --
> Jared
>
> "There is = no emotion, there is peace;  there is no ignorance, there is
> knowledge;  there is no passion, there is serenity; = ; there is no death,
> there is the Universe"
>
&g= t; "Work smart when you can and hard if you must"
>
>= "When a system is corrupt then it's time for a reformat"
>
> "Open Source: The light side of computing.  = ;It's never too late to join"





--
Jared

"There is no emotion, ther= e is peace;  there is no ignorance, there is knowledge; &nbs= p;there is no passion, there is serenity;  there is no death, the= re is the Universe"

"Work smart when you can and hard if you must"

&qu= ot;When a system is corrupt then it's time for a reformat"

= "Open Source: The light side of computing.  It's never t= oo late to join" ------=_Part_11412_1090754.1193510641519--