From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Dec 21 09:35:04 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5lm2-00064S-UW for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:35:03 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.186]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5lly-000637-UF for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:35:02 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so294573rvf.46 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:34:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=/t1IldkIsIPGxmy0+HwPge3sRb9tYam6xQXzAZ3CdRk=; b=PYN29HRko1xalKWfVJE29d7fqOiGBqLcVIeZ20uy3X2V+ZriwseXL134Uj+Haey049s1H54GRbzYgRRTv1TswHEEQQ2sGB5EqflsWs3aZAEAILEjl6doyJNapDjGzat5yobJT22i//KNzgMC1oJRiTRfULeZtECEv4+4mkYh50w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=OTYTL9dKARAwMix/gGRRFTKA1pGXSTMkQCVVRfvvvgUlhYMSHg+ageguRJb6ipMyRCaZvSycb0PrB4rerW3bNNoeg7DhhLcljfxS7XZC0/jIJKChYOItvFSLkkC19WzE2IWoGF/25Xw9LHyRHfrMo+Ro5ec5ldQGUOTG49Pvddk= Received: by 10.141.20.7 with SMTP id x7mr914087rvi.34.1198258496874; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:34:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.147.16 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:34:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <97f5058c0712210934u190ed9dduee78e37ea7e35b56@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:34:56 +0800 From: Penguino To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lo question In-Reply-To: <925d17560712210907raa1615ehf3ab3fa2c557a6fc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1007_32733189.1198258496869" References: <737b61f30712202126p40d516f0ha7cc0af582587332@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560712210637mea1a698w69ceae2900c609cf@mail.gmail.com> <97f5058c0712210830y29d06e04ub7ca67a9b43555f1@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560712210907raa1615ehf3ab3fa2c557a6fc@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 16 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: spheniscine@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_1007_32733189.1198258496869 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline *.ua ki'e* On Dec 22, 2007 1:07 AM, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Dec 21, 2007 1:30 PM, Penguino wrote: > > Wouldn't le work here? > > Yes, {le} would work too. > > But {lo ci mensi be mi} can, in context, be {lo ci mensi be mi [be'o poi > kansa > mi'a]}. It would hardly ever imply that you may not have a fourth sister > in the > future, for example, so it will normally be restricted to current sisters= . > Does > it suggest, without further context, that you currently have only > three sisters? > Yes, for there is no reason, without context, to be excluding some of > them. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > > ------=_Part_1007_32733189.1198258496869 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline .ua ki'e

On Dec 22, 2007 1:07 = AM, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias= @gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 21, 2007 1:30 PM, Penguino <spheniscine@gmail.com> wrote:
> Woul= dn't le work here?

Yes, {le} would work too.

But {l= o ci mensi be mi} can, in context, be {lo ci mensi be mi [be'o poi kans= a
mi'a]}. It would hardly ever imply that you may not have a fourth s= ister in the
future, for example, so it will normally be restricted to c= urrent sisters. Does
it suggest, without further context, that you curre= ntly have only
three sisters?
Yes, for there is no reason, without context, to be e= xcluding some of them.

mu'= o mi'e xorxes




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