From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Dec 21 10:06:16 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5mGF-0007Vb-NU for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:06:16 -0800 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.157]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5mG9-0007VC-29 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:06:15 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so203685fga.0 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:06:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Zl1xF0QPT9yL6c6KGf8C4YPxq7+GfFWY7w2nK8t7q+M=; b=Qk2pBDkN8ZZ5S4rydGkuCgpS9AjS5gzDX4dU8UL4mIdVxd+oMRHCEbunutydmbiz7rP3+o0WYCUJ+TM5vB5iBorRXpH5pb55jEpZoT6QCZjOzp1QHWf/JuwRZlNIyBpxnrwNfY3hSxBt4YVsesNWHrWczj6nFnI9NqDPf31jS50= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lqKkxrq6JfF4v0Ru3WiMYG4hLrPLss+zOXov1nBCnEuxB3uvwW3vMOxXG9wAaL6On5dQAZOqN1FHlmqVDO9Nh5Y7JMw1Qc2P18k81BQ1hyfQ4D1CEBHi8cyatmGId40GWPqEP+ackAbCuYngcrqxEyp89KRu8aig7aesYfOVAsQ= Received: by 10.86.33.10 with SMTP id g10mr1381977fgg.8.1198260367505; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:06:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560712211006j417e72cbja0b905992c0f0e22@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:06:07 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Correction please In-Reply-To: <96f789a60712210932m9347196hc4b02ecc2754d7c3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0712210307i4aad2c31jc98c7b95fbb566f0@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60712210658o71af36f7j9d3e73813ae6839f@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0712210830s56621eacxa546cf3f3041da09@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60712210842w2d9ba10fvf69015b33c13fccc@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0712210916r77570081mea0ab7ba039858a0@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60712210932m9347196hc4b02ecc2754d7c3@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 17 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners It is fairly easy to determine what the relationship of the tagged sumti to the rest of the bridi is when the underlying selbri of the tag has an event or du'u place. For exampe: broda ki'u ko'a broda sepi'o ko'a broda gau ko'a broda du'i ko'a broda pa'a ko'a broda bai ko'a broda du'o ko'a can all be roughly paraphrased as: ko'a krinu lo nu broda ko'a se pilno fi lo nu broda ko'a gasnu lo nu broda ko'a dunli lo nu broda ko'a panra lo nu broda ko'a bapli lo nu broda ko'a djuno lo du'u broda But when the tag's underlying selbri doesn't have an event or a du'u place, it is harder to see how the added sumti fits with the main bridi. What is {broda kai ko'a}? Is it like {ko'a ckaji lo ka ce'u broda}? Or like {ko'a ckaji lo ka broda ce'u}? Or something else? I know that it's {ko'a ckaji da} and that that is somehow related to the brodaing of the main bridi, but what exactly the relationship is, I don't know. mu'o mi'e xorxes