From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Dec 25 07:33:23 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 25 Dec 2007 07:33:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7BmV-00014s-8o for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 07:33:23 -0800 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.158]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7BmN-00013m-JW for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 07:33:22 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1067013fga.0 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 07:33:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=yep0ijrWLOn7yAti6iEmKvqH+e47unBx01Be0S3FNqQ=; b=BTCtCDFcsBNKLtHDKc4imncIKkg3W1VT0VXkugXCIXSBkWmFyeZ9DRNqYf/N+DKRj5xoRzLhQXPbC1RnEgP2WDkH5nxIMxIJHo2Pou4iRCrVyJX6PCm4KT2nlfHgcPw9G6NBpBuslkyYNYEjqy7oHhO9bCuRaQ2KMttKCG2GNpI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=g/fnlY91EsB3prgb02l9WVKGt+WTphX6GMExu6O6Lg05zoHLZb5xiytktbAZ28x0iE0cgtqZjFR5ivc7/50pA+U6g/sjmGoqus1pYVoTKm0hNOpwjddr040lI3Ysnqf2Vld+R1cwWDyzwkRtxZVoR9rdt9jcKrj+Lrapx2v4kMU= Received: by 10.86.72.15 with SMTP id u15mr5687328fga.11.1198596793129; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 07:33:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 07:33:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560712250733y130c55c4yf1c9095f9fcd36fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 12:33:13 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: zo .o'o In-Reply-To: <20071223230027.lr1umtt1a84sk48k@webmail.ixkey.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071210083921.6niaptyrtcc8gg0k@webmail.ixkey.info> <97f5058c0712100859j1be799d6g97c2a5ad2c487f46@mail.gmail.com> <20071223230027.lr1umtt1a84sk48k@webmail.ixkey.info> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 27 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Dec 24, 2007 4:00 AM, wrote: > OK here's a question about ".o'o": If you say ".o'onai" what it means > is that you're frustrated by something that someone is doing, you want > them to stop, it's getting you angry. ".o'o" on the other hand means > that you are showing "indulgence" or "leniency" to what the person is > doing. Does ".o'o" imply that the action is negative-- it's still not > really something good or something that you like, but you are feeling > patient about it? That's how I understand it, yes. {o'o} shows acceptance of something undesirable, unwelcome, unsatisfactory, etc. > Or is that more ".o'ocu'i"'s job, I see {o'o cu'i} as a neutral reaction, so not getting exasperated but not being especially "positive" about it either. > and ".o'o" can > mean something that you actually enjoy & want to encourage someone to > continue? I think that would rather be {oinai} or {i'e}. mu'o mi'e xorxes