From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Dec 26 06:24:11 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 26 Dec 2007 06:24:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7XB5-00028I-Bx for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 06:24:11 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7XB0-00027z-RW for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 06:24:11 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so1796853rvf.46 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 06:24:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=5kPNAyhsnaZm3PEbXYNq06j3kvc95MNbNwxugEdGshM=; b=pwJiJGv263NH2PnAJueMto//7WeaLNwvd8a2sUy4FYJDchmhVlTc2I7M5ZVvHND+QF07S2B3twrvqxohre2Btxvtf1Je8Pc2txywxIKWf3wF6miQVcHGznaZuA8juyyA5eZCyIUgGDaZeUWNJjso90Beq+vyBY2ATCv0LfMR5uw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rOxrORoI1kTDtXqPEICw7d2UYbxINpYijR1dkWU+MWPY27dtya6br6565Nln/RfxucPKZu+BMarV0p/SdoUeLARMPDi0lQScU9sHbQfS4bK6208lvKzWz7cREs10psanvuU5EwTP1GGcGay132Gard0A82xbgItjIVr2HUgPwWk= Received: by 10.140.177.15 with SMTP id z15mr3337480rve.138.1198679045906; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 06:24:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.202.21 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 06:24:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <96f789a60712260624x6587b05r12e8f47670a497@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:24:05 -0500 From: "Michael Turniansky" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: nitcu le denpa lerfu fi ma In-Reply-To: <200712260106.34434.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7228_15826032.1198679045867" References: <20071225195037.f1affe0bd44gssgs@webmail.ixkey.info> <97f5058c0712252012g60c0f362qa057866ea28556b2@mail.gmail.com> <200712260106.34434.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 34 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_7228_15826032.1198679045867 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Dec 26, 2007 1:06 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > > Thus {zoi zoi. borzoi .zoi} is a valid quotation. About {zoi ly. > Lythraceae .ly.}, I'm not so sure. Not according to the refgram, Chapter 19, section 10: " Its syntax is ``zoi X. text .X'', where X is a Lojban word (called the delimiting word) which is separated from the quoted text by pauses, and which is not found in the written text or spoken phoneme stream." Maybe this is different under dotside?? Or are suggesting it's fine in writing, but not spoken due to the existence of spaces/nonspaces? --gejyspa ------=_Part_7228_15826032.1198679045867 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On Dec 26, 2007 1:06 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:



Thus {zoi zoi. borzoi .zoi} is a valid quotation. About {zoi ly.
Lythraceae .ly.}, I'm not so sure.

  Not according to  the refgram, Chapter 19, section 10:
 
" Its syntax is ``zoi X. text .X'', where X is a Lojban word (called the delimiting word) which is separated from the quoted text by pauses, and which is not found in the written text or spoken phoneme stream."

  Maybe this is different under  dotside??  Or are suggesting it's fine in writing, but not spoken due to the existence of spaces/nonspaces?


               --gejyspa


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