From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Dec 26 07:54:36 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:54:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7YaZ-0005Sz-PM for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:54:36 -0800 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.159]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7YaV-0005Sl-55 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:54:35 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1292949fga.0 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:54:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ckQCZx/PFdzzqKCaVjwwbdEVqEIwLtoS09VHYhsBdxw=; b=FKI2jzpyohEvb2LPYLBFAcJkXL7jA92YIUWxBfC4sKvau676CDZ+O/tNXhMnEy7nFTnzx63/5jTjZ5N0Y2LpZwNwkEBOI6DUZw8MvvmXCk4obPemLvnsofF9oBnoxf+LYoDE1x+m2L/FexoqGbXvBfUdKf741gB3BvnJCs5Ceio= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z81LkD8bDXLMwrXGgiMn6Yk6VWmfhHolq34tWfZl1bEWFZ4qML5cckFTuhZ/Oa5ARMsIQVHfNT9I5s9jl5xPeXNpm8bYMUBK+FLaxPTOnDZRTkv1Lrei+3O9cskwor8QE9NjMnaNaspwNNj0X1Ikcn2IfGoN5FLobJ/cFbT8QPo= Received: by 10.86.62.3 with SMTP id k3mr6806260fga.15.1198684469664; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:54:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:54:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560712260754o2e6b28a6p4e412e1e6809e19d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:54:29 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: nitcu le denpa lerfu fi ma In-Reply-To: <96f789a60712260744r14fd1c39of2c8729000d721e0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071225195037.f1affe0bd44gssgs@webmail.ixkey.info> <97f5058c0712252012g60c0f362qa057866ea28556b2@mail.gmail.com> <200712260106.34434.phma@phma.optus.nu> <96f789a60712260624x6587b05r12e8f47670a497@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560712260720h79a85a40ldf662246410cbdcb@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60712260744r14fd1c39of2c8729000d721e0@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 38 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Dec 26, 2007 12:44 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > > On Dec 26, 2007 1:06 AM, Pierre Abbat < phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thus {zoi zoi. borzoi .zoi} is a valid quotation. > > > > > > Not according to the refgram, Chapter 19, section 10: > > > > > > " Its syntax is ``zoi X. text .X'', where X is a Lojban word (called the > > > delimiting word) which is separated from the quoted text by pauses, and > > > which is not found in the written text or spoken phoneme stream." > > My fault, I should have clarified. I was objecting to the borzoi example. It's the same thing. The word {zoi} is not part of the written text {borzoi} nor of the spoken phoneme stream, which contains only a lujvo. mu'o mi'e xorxes