From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Dec 21 07:39:23 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:39:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5jy6-0000Sp-Iy for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:39:23 -0800 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.157]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5jxv-0000S5-UM for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:39:22 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so181802fga.0 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:39:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=iaMerauB9606fCR1kbwpFA9ykO99NCu/9ZTuHYtTQP0=; b=s5l2Brq+eZncVBSduWMO7AfNwRPHbTWtwrNW9Fkm+txrA3OvT0Fi5HyalyEFjpsaZBnef9ALpIu+Mbo6mTtWr+jEjKUoA3vg6xolM8ss6PNfoe7Rw7ERHTRd1MUpgDYXxmzY1vsV5ckSqq7hQZ/YxowdietyS+dycozaoZGYFLk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=xWKL97qe4u/0QeE9ZEWU0NPX71La/DrErcwL5zyhyttSpNQIaYtcikm1PhVcvYDajd5s25pGFBrG4Ist7n3cy6Ji+I8YKi3KzxCWmZF3Fu90M/CibSkk6bF5xXO3GFSpl+iQU/xUTyrzZckwuL5YVtfVgrWWyZUTRv3KitPBPh4= Received: by 10.86.76.16 with SMTP id y16mr1241486fga.71.1198251544549; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:39:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:39:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560712210739s120daef3q3d4be95a0c79707c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:39:04 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lo question In-Reply-To: <96f789a60712210709h48697821jfaa101180b1e688@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30712202126p40d516f0ha7cc0af582587332@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560712210637mea1a698w69ceae2900c609cf@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60712210709h48697821jfaa101180b1e688@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Dec 21, 2007 12:09 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > While we're on the topic of qualified sumti, I was wondering the following: > > If I say "ci gerku cu citka lo cirla spisa poi bunda li bi - " 3 dogs ate > 8 pounds of cheese", does this imply they EACH ate that amount, or they did > as a group? Each. > My suspicion is that it means each, and that the way to say > they at it as a group would be loi/lei ci gerku etc. (refgram chapter 6, > section 3) . Is my understanding correct? Yes. {lo ci gerku} is indeterminate in that respect. > (Can I also assume that's true of any PA, icluding "ro", etc.?) There are some things in PA, such as {pai} or things with {pi}, for which it's not clear what the question would mean, but for integer quantifiers, including ranges, yes. mu'o mi'e xorxes