From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Dec 26 09:30:10 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7a54-0001jb-4G for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:30:10 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.191]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7a4v-0001hw-Ak for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:30:09 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so1844753rvf.46 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:29:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=0rXcAqM6xxBMycwLlGV0efyDxRqC4w41MujA0Ifu/x4=; b=NbziAuNoo19d2ojEJ2wXwUDwdyroS9u4qqorZHrPNIbMOyelfCVsARp41NCPw+q1ZFef87wnMDsJ6y25dAhLeoWLzXTIhfhDjD/jKYuUMBeks5laK+OFvB+2bgu8AtAYI7Yf/a+0/P+FObrqyJ+4KPK0zeY/9FUrlHtHNT9wDMc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BwDz8um/VNbAUkyAJfoB5b0yAsiAr6ddr/oqHzOnbf27Aq21LXYJsSWracX5RkZ7LKobhXttS9DzXQoOTxUFdXvhNpodzohl8bZljwzOFlhXowB8pDGJTYcJCRKLHkdy8wsFDgFixChCz93e027PFQJnlWs4y7AzOmwjFIq5Ir4= Received: by 10.140.132.8 with SMTP id f8mr3447574rvd.198.1198690199200; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.202.21 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:29:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <96f789a60712260929s3fbed952of1cb5278cbac587d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:29:59 -0500 From: "Michael Turniansky" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "C++" In-Reply-To: <20071226080848.eff0z0cggso4cskc@webmail.ixkey.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7488_23724591.1198690199182" References: <2f91285f0712191452w44253109v5bdac71ce5992ce9@mail.gmail.com> <20071219231516.GO13175@digitalkingdom.org> <20071225180542.h8g86y2ysk4cosw0@webmail.ixkey.info> <96f789a60712260614i62053ba6xa716aaeb206c46b5@mail.gmail.com> <20071226080848.eff0z0cggso4cskc@webmail.ixkey.info> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 44 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_7488_23724591.1198690199182 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Dec 26, 2007 11:08 AM, wrote: > Quoting Michael Turniansky : > > > The last sentence seems a bit wonky. You are a > > more-than-C++-in-some-property-type-of free under conditions of Java, > etc.? > > .iesai satci > > > > I would assume you mean something like "...lei nu ko'e zmadu ko'a lo > ka mi > > zifre fi tu'a ce'u"? > > .ie do jimpe ju'o fi le mi jufra fe le du'u makau smuni ri > > Granted, your sentence is clearer than mine, & it might be wise for me > to restrain my love of obscure things like embedded "be" phrases on > lojban-ba'e-beginner. .u'uru'ero'a .u'iru'ero'e > I have no problem with the embedded be-phrase. It's the tanru as a whole that's causing me a problem. Since tanru are by their nature vague, it seemed to imply that you are are comparing yourself to C++, as in: "lei nu mi zmadu be tu'a ko'a zifre fi tu'a ko'e" (your phrase) -> "lei nu mi zmadu tu'a ko'a lo ka zifre fi tu'a ko'e" --gejyspa ------=_Part_7488_23724591.1198690199182 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On Dec 26, 2007 11:08 AM, <mungojelly@ixkey.info> wrote:
Quoting Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>:

>   The last sentence  seems a bit wonky. You are a
> more-than-C++-in-some-property-type-of free under conditions of Java, etc.?

.iesai satci


>   I would assume you mean something like "...lei nu ko'e zmadu ko'a lo ka mi
> zifre fi tu'a ce'u"?

.ie do jimpe ju'o fi le mi jufra fe le du'u makau smuni ri

Granted, your sentence is clearer than mine, & it might be wise for me
to restrain my love of obscure things like embedded "be" phrases on
lojban-ba'e-beginner. .u'uru'ero'a .u'iru'ero'e
  I have no problem with the embedded be-phrase.  It's the tanru as a whole that's causing me a problem.  Since tanru are by their nature vague, it seemed to imply that you are are comparing yourself to C++, as in:  
"lei nu mi zmadu be tu'a ko'a zifre fi tu'a ko'e" (your phrase) -> "lei nu mi zmadu tu'a ko'a lo ka zifre fi tu'a ko'e"

           --gejyspa

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