From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Dec 26 10:26:34 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:26:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7axc-0004PH-KY for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:26:33 -0800 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.153]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7axX-0004P5-E5 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:26:32 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so1315211fga.0 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:26:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=QNXDJHU9weYHYBE3fGs8UqhGFWx67cXmhikyViSjMlM=; b=Et2DweGGt7tk8C/TOsCH8WobiYlgp9wgyaCbO2Ba7hKi1CVO7EjJU2EzIRjsRkHXUz62ZVurEzMCtvj4a4rEBhV1A046tMk/lej2BB7w1pOZUkoz5rKkK30NjEmm4shrOeLgoeP89e9hOmZOpokReLcWakHZHlDxm00LGP4BNiM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lRgxu99BL+JiLikrdxqz/v4ClfJfAbQZz6dZiEQ0vBB3k9e4RTcmC5mMf3f32cy8px4IXnvbKP/Sq4lRkQMMdCqWEmUnkAc/CFRfy9S8aOJY9emxIXubbFiJeUO/Hv2ACBQgj0RIONHe4uwLqkheEjetb6tZg9s0hW+kz2GdEp8= Received: by 10.86.4.2 with SMTP id 2mr6921796fgd.77.1198693585701; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:26:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:26:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560712261026k1617e941nee01e2d0d41d115c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:26:25 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: nitcu le denpa lerfu fi ma In-Reply-To: <96f789a60712261013k36624c44m8685ee8a6f32ffb7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071225195037.f1affe0bd44gssgs@webmail.ixkey.info> <97f5058c0712252012g60c0f362qa057866ea28556b2@mail.gmail.com> <200712260106.34434.phma@phma.optus.nu> <96f789a60712260624x6587b05r12e8f47670a497@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560712260720h79a85a40ldf662246410cbdcb@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60712260744r14fd1c39of2c8729000d721e0@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560712260754o2e6b28a6p4e412e1e6809e19d@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60712260856o1f283b81ma8c640e5779a546c@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560712260922q26dd6069r4eb8b60b60ad7c8d@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60712261013k36624c44m8685ee8a6f32ffb7@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 47 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Dec 26, 2007 3:13 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > The "fall-off" problem is presumably that AS SOON AS you hear(/see) that > guard word/syllable, whatever, the quote is closed off, and the rest must be > considered to be presumably valid lojban, and neither human nor computer > parsers are expected to know it's an exception, since in a foreign quote > there could be (as here) a pause before the word inside the quote. > "mi djuno fi lo valsi po'u zoi jai .jai...*reicns jai" But the exception would be to decide that you have hit the word before you get to a pause. You can never, in a Lojban string of text or sound, be sure that you have a word until you've reached a pause or space, because it can always be part of a cmevla. Why would there be an exception here? The two words {jai.reicns} cannot be quoted with {jai ... jai}, but the single cmevla {jaireicns} is not a problem for the distinct word {jai}. mu'o mi'e xorxes