From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Dec 04 00:03:21 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:03:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzSkG-0004EB-NA for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:03:18 -0800 Received: from dsl081-066-183.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.66.183] helo=pinfu.digitalkingdom.org) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzSjn-0004CO-Ip for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:03:03 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.191]) by pinfu.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IzFZU-0004J6-W6 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:59:09 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so2692913rvf for ; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.88.42 with SMTP id l42mr5515683rvb.1196678517044; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:41:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.147.16 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 02:41:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <97f5058c0712030241q6e831e13l3f150f0308ff93dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 18:41:56 +0800 From: Penguino To: lojban-beginners Subject: [lojban-beginners] Word for "bless" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6526_24302277.1196678517037" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 X-Spam-Score-Int: 7 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5838 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: spheniscine@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_6526_24302277.1196678517037 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've been wondering about the state of the Lojban equivalent to the word "bless". Jbovlaste gives *ruxyzau*, however this is for blessing an action, not an object. I suppose one can use *tu'a* here... though it might not be clear exactly what the abstraction is. There is also (*ces*)*toldapma*, though it might be ambiguous... it could also mean "x1 releases/un-condemns x2 from damnation x3", paralleling *tolvimcu*, and (in my opinion) an ugly word to use for bless. I guess one could get a word for* *"bless" that parallels the place structure of *dapma* through something like *zanseldimgau*, but it is rather long. ------=_Part_6526_24302277.1196678517037 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've been wondering about the state of the Lojban equivalent to the word "bless". Jbovlaste gives ruxyzau, however this is for blessing an action, not an object. I suppose one can use tu'a here... though it might not be clear exactly what the abstraction is. There is also ( ces)toldapma, though it might be ambiguous... it could also mean "x1 releases/un-condemns x2 from damnation x3", paralleling tolvimcu, and (in my opinion) an ugly word to use for bless.

I guess one could get a word for "bless" that parallels the place structure of dapma through something like zanseldimgau, but it is rather long. ------=_Part_6526_24302277.1196678517037--