From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Dec 05 08:14:38 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 05 Dec 2007 08:14:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzwtP-0003GG-Ap for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 08:14:38 -0800 Received: from web88013.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.39.218]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzwtF-0003Fj-9c for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 08:14:33 -0800 Received: (qmail 99688 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Dec 2007 16:14:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=FO1QfrN83ShkbcFtKnUKkR7NgjW/bDDckcQpjCNFkD+oR9FaVkKmxdqjPKYjjSwUgWvCqNxWID6r7hY54LmukE98ruUwFgUjyVuZvkeiPffG3SLwehpc9qT/BXxjudTVeWv8QIthbOmkDUE5AfyNWEPAYzdwIesvT2JXi3+TWEE=; X-YMail-OSG: aF88y3kVM1mcWEQLU41BkoRF7b6Dehk2gpT9z_b1iDsgUAc_..W9a0Vic8PkI_eeig-- Received: from [99.229.12.248] by web88013.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 08:14:15 PST Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 08:14:15 -0800 (PST) From: "A. PIEKARSKI" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Strange modals To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Message-ID: <723696.93025.qm@web88013.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5845 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ki'e ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jorge Llambías > To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org > Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2007 7:40:36 AM > Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Strange modals > > On 12/4/07, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > I think the differene between di'o and sedi'o is that {X di'o Y} says that > > X occurs at the place where Y is confined, whereas {X sedi'o Y} says > > that X occurs at, and is confined to, place Y. They differ as to what is > > confined. > > > > But if > > {diklo}: x1 is located in x2 and nowhere else within x3 > > then surely > > {se diklo} must be: x1 is the only location of x2 within x3 > > Yes. > > > and {X di'o Y} must be: X being the only location of Y within... > > In {X di'o Y}, X has to be a bridi, it can't refer to a location. "X occurs, > with Y being confined to some location (presumably the location > where X occurs)". > > If X is a sumti that refers to a location, then you can use {X pe di'o Y} > for "X, the only location of Y" > > mu'o mi'e > xorxes >