From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Dec 19 21:34:56 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:34:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5E3a-0006hu-MZ for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:34:56 -0800 Received: from smtp.mail.umich.edu ([141.211.14.82] helo=hellskitchen.mr.itd.umich.edu) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5E3Q-0006hb-OW for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:34:54 -0800 Received: FROM [192.168.123.137] (24-236-237-152.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com [24.236.237.152]) BY hellskitchen.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4769FEAE.35C1D.2231 ; 20 Dec 2007 00:33:34 -0500 Message-Id: From: Alex Martini To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <20071219231516.GO13175@digitalkingdom.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "C++" Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:33:32 -0500 References: <2f91285f0712191452w44253109v5bdac71ce5992ce9@mail.gmail.com> <20071219231516.GO13175@digitalkingdom.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5870 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: alexjm@umich.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Dec 19, 2007, at 6:15 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 11:52:22PM +0100, Vid Sintef wrote: >> How do you express the name "C++"? {la cy.sumjibu.sumjibu} or {la >> cy.sujybu.sujybu}? > > la .siplusplus. > > It's a name; it has little real semantic meaning. .ie C++ is an inherently English programming language in my experience. And very few users of C++ know where the name semantically derived from anyhow. If you really wanted a Lojbanic name, you could try to translate "C with classes", which was the C++'s first (working) name. But they you'd need a Lojban word for "class" as it's used in C++... .uonai Any idea what other languages use to name C++? I'd bet just their name for "C", and their name for "plus plus", but I've never heard anyone talk about it not using English. mu'o mi'e .aleks.